Based on recent media coverage of Meta tracking laptop activity and taking screenshots to train the AI to replace the people it is tracking, does anyone know of this sort of thing in Dell?
Seems our colleagues in Europe can ask under law and be told but not sure if anyone would or has done this.
Any confirmation of this in any region or BU?
I’m not looking for comments that are jumping to conclusions or making guesses based on feelings. Any real info out there?
@yh ok so you have admin creds that is why you can do things others cannot. Duh.
@yj Dell is at the very least tracking your location. That’s why the arrow pops up and disappears on the right side of your task bar all the time. Not sure you’ve been paying attention to Meta in the last three or so years, but they’ve largely shifted to the right. Look at who Zuck surrounds himself with these days, the policies that have been implemented on their platforms in the last year, or the fact that many high ranking executives that have joined the company the last couple of years come from the higher echelons of the Trump/Heritage Foundation inner circles. But honestly, it’s just them following the political tides to avoid confrontation from the current administration, gotta fall in line like all the other tech executives have, otherwise you’ll be a target.
@q0 having it locked down doesn't mean they are "monitoring" you lmfao. It means they have control over what you can and cannot do on it... Just like literally any company in the world does.
Meta is an ultra liberal company while, Dell is definitely on the conservative side. Dell is cheap af anyways, you really think they are gonna spend millions on software to "track" us when that takes away from their bank accounts?
@nv I mean, what can't you end? I can end literally everything except the vital shiiiiittttt.. I an force close all MS products, browsers, etc... but yeah I cant quit certain things either. As for registry, I can edit mine just fine but do hve to provide adm creds first.
@nv yep, they've locked down the entire laptop. Maybe you can have ai hack it.
@h2 I tested this out today, there's currently more than 20 "tasks" that prompt for admin credentials when I try to end them. Also I cannot edit the registry without admin creds.
they've locked down alot of processes, it's not that easy anymore.
@e0 if it's a task/program IN the task manager then no. You don't need special permissions. I cant' speak for all teams, or everyone but I believe anyone can open the task manager and end a task.
However, any and all of the "vital" programs on your computer will not be able to be "shut down" via "end task" in the task manager. Essentially, if you click the little arrow on the bottom right side of your desktop by the clock, most of those programs are never gonna be shut down via task manager. They will infinitely restart/reload and are always going to be active...
Now, this is strictly speaking of ending a task via task manager - the conventional way! There is absolutely 100% ways to stop these tasks from running and/or starting up after shutting it down but, it's more involved and has to do with the registry, among other major items. I wouldn't recommend doing tbh...
Back in the day of my ProSupport career, there was a program called "ICE" which essentially was used for managers to monitor your calls and/or listen in on calls. For whatever reason, that was a program you could simply just exit out of via task manager lol. Which I did often enough.
"I’m not looking for comments that are jumping to conclusions or making guesses based on feelings. Any real info out there?"
And yp6u came here?
Did you live under power lines and/or eat paint chips when you were a kid?
@e0 Not sure if it's thr same for all teams but on my team we have to open an IT ticked for admin privileges any time we want to do anything more complicated than emptying the recycle bin.
@ca don't you need admin access for stopping certain processes?
@b9 Agreed but, hiding things from the task manager is easy.
Dell is a Windows "shop" meaning all company issued computers issues are Windows based. I 100% promise you that there is absolutely zero way that Dell (or any company) can truly "hide" a running process, or app. Or even an inactive one. Just because it doesn't show up in TaskManager doesn't mean anything...
Windows key + r - shell:appsfolder will show you everything installed
type tasklist in the command prompt - will show you every app or process running
Trust me, there is not a way to truly hide a process or program on Windows. It can be found and it can also be stopped. Just have to know how to do it ;)
There was a software but it was temporary and required to sign over a few things
There is, especially when you've been WFR'd.
Task Manager or Network Usage but most of these things would probably be hidden. Since your laptop is company-issued, you have to expect no level of privacy.
@a7 how can someone confirm it’s on their device?
No, I can categorically deny I am active on all Dell property compute infrastructure. Or that I learn and capture your best practices, processes and or habits to train the AI models, or that I stack rank your productivity and recommend you for continued employment. Just remember 2+2=5... never forget that.
For over 10 years. Yes
Let's hope the person replacing me will be smarter than SalesChat.
yes i can confirm it’s there. it’s learning about you. it’s watching everything. i’m from a software team based in india i didn’t work in that specific project but i can confirm.