Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

Java UI guy, I need answers.

What are the alternatives to using a java ui?

I don't care about layoffs, stock, "no it's not!", 200 applications and I've finally got an interview, Bandy the clown, any of that.

I just need to know what else would be superior to Xerox using a java ui?


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Post ID: @OP+1kfm6htvk

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C’mon Man ! Do your homework or Google or Grok ect.
Wall Street
Customers
Investors
They all hate the horrible, horrible, horrible! Java U.I. 🤮

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Post ID: @p4+1kfm6htvk

@h4 Maybe Oracle is going to buy us out and we can keep the Java UI and licensing costs will all be in house payments.

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Post ID: @hv+1kfm6htvk

"What exactly is the issue with java ui"

A Java UI can be written to look like anything you want it to be, there is nothing in Java that prevents a UI from looking & feeling exactly like requirements state.

But generally there are costs for Java. If used in an embedded product, you aren't using the Oracle JVM so you need to partner with a company that makes an embedded JVM. This costs money. If used on a production product, there are licensing costs to Oracle last I knew.

Besides monetary costs, there is usually a performance & memory cost to running a JVM vs something else. Not a big problem for most of the production machines (are there any left?), but for mid-range it requires more memory, a heftier CPU, and a GPU.

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Post ID: @h4+1kfm6htvk

"What isn't a legacy product at the tech power house these days"

With Lexmark, time will tell how much of the Xerox workflow and software will remain, so yeah it's possible everything will be legacy if Lexmark replaces everything. What Xerox normally did was get hardware from partners and put it's software & controller on it for consistent workflows and user experiences. This probably isn't as important as it used to be. I have no idea what Lexmark uses, I assume no Java. Not that it matters, though Java is primarily a server side technology these days, well that and many Android apps.

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Post ID: @h3+1kfm6htvk

production bárf

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Post ID: @ex+1kfm6htvk

Is there an anti java ui cult I don't know about? Serious downvotes for factual information.

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Post ID: @e9+1kfm6htvk

I ask because I have never had any sort of issue with the java ui on any copier I have performed service on. The only issues stem from other issues causing the UI not to turn on. What exactly is the issue with java ui?

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Post ID: @dx+1kfm6htvk

Java as an embedded UI technology at Xerox is either over, or nearly over other than legacy product support.

What isn't a legacy product at the tech power house these days? At least they wised up and apparently stopped showing screenshots of the Lotus Notes inspired Java controller in their online marketing.

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Post ID: @dm+1kfm6htvk

Not Java UI guy here, but I'm very familiar with it and Java technology.

What would be superior? Any one of the multitude of responsive-web/mobile-first web technologies. React and/or bootstrap for example, but I know there are a ton more that I know nothing about.

Java as an embedded UI technology at Xerox is either over, or nearly over other than legacy product support.

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Post ID: @da+1kfm6htvk

Finally talking about something important! Curious to hear what he thinks about the new lexmark a3’s!

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Post ID: @c7+1kfm6htvk

If you can't answer the question yourself then your not what Xerox needs to move forward.

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Post ID: @ah+1kfm6htvk

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