I'm hearing it's next week for SEC, the week after for the rest of tech. Does anybody have confirmation?
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@gx for old school, we should do the “thunder dome” - Two men enter, one man leaves!!!
The champion of each battle stays at Nike!
1 week a year before jdi
Each function picks 10 people based on performance
Battle royal on mount hood & gorge
Winners keep their job
The losers die as they arent true oregonians
Annual swoosh games
Now just do it
oh gawd, I hate that layoff week idea but also it triggered this super ironic laugh and after a minute or two kind of settled in as… “well that would be practical”…
sort of going to the Hunger Games thing, you at least had a firm boundary for disaster and the other 51 weeks a year you could relax.
how is something the best and worst idea at the same time?! well done @e6
@e6 that would be too efficient
@e6 unwellness week
We should just set aside a week every year and layoffs can only occur on that week
@ab Some time would be good. Like "we won't do it until x date". A week or two notice would be better than months of rumors or no idea at all day of. But I prepare no notice to a month plus of notice.
@cp Problem with that is they have to tell wallstreet ahead of time how much they are spending, which kind of gives it away regardless.
@am The CF&C leader was just instated a week ago, so unlikely they are being cut
I spoke to the highly connected old guy I know in the bathroom and he said it starts next week. Not joking.
There should be NO preannounced layoffs. The WFH email goes out noon Thursday. “Org Alignment” 1:1 invites for Friday sent by end of Thursday. Turn off Slack and Box at 4:00 Thursday. Layoffs on Friday. BO-M done!
A couple of points --
1) The VP playing d-mb is par for the course. It's technically possible they are being cut and don't know, but more likely they are demonstrating the lack of leadership that is hurting us. In the past I've seen VP's kick it over to HR to answer... like wow, VP salary and you don't have enough courage to answer.
2) Past layoffs have come over school breaks. Like wtf, nobody stepped up and said hey maybe it's not a great idea to lay people off when they are at home with kids or on vacation. I blame the consulting firms partially for that as they're likely not local.
3) To execute layoffs at scale takes time. Past folks have talked about their paperwork having timestamps of a month or more before they were told. Which they also shared in hindsight it even further makes you question 'leadership' and their actions leading up to it.
It's a business and it's not easy. I don't envy anyone who has to make these decisions. However, seems to always be room for improvement.
CF&C VP played d-mb in all hands today so who knows. They're being cruel at this point. But hey at least EH got a really good piece in national media!
@a3
Announce early → people complain about being held hostage.
Announce late → people complain about no notice.
So what’s the Goldilocks notice period?
I'm not convinced they even had a plan when they announced it. They just want to get off in the power trip of threatening our job security.
almost two months ago, in the SEC meeting they said business would be mid-late march and tech in april. SEC is the only ones given actual dates
does anyone even know?
I am so tired of these bamf holding all of us hostage for weeks. Fu-k this sh-t. I dont know what is the right way to do this...but that is why these bamf are getting the big bucks. Enough already!
During spring break for non SEC ??
Maybe it’s on kalsi?