I’ve never seen a company that is so top heavy. And notice how every VP is always in the same meetings with other VPs. What decision autonomy you have when everyone is in everyone’s business always.
There are meetings in random cities all over the world that everyone flocks to. And these “strategy sessions” do not drive anything other than poor decisions which require future pivots (and more Strat sessions).
What is going on with Honeywell?
This all started. When they decided that group leaders were gonna hire everybody. Now everyone who is a group leader gets promoted. They even get to negotiate their pay.
Here how it works. You’ve become a backup group leader, then a group leader, supervisor, senior, supervisor, then you become a planner, then they give you all some other bogus job, at somewhere along the line you might become sight leader.
Since all your friends are in those positions, you just constantly get promoted. Then they all brag how they should get $100,000 a year. Without any degrees or any form of qualifications.
We’re over compensated and overbloated. In Elliot management old words. Honeywell is overbloated and over compensated.
By the way. The whole company is being run by people who are only 18 to 27 years old. If your parent has a certain position high up in the company. Your relative, friend, or anyone related to you will get promoted.
Its called corporate nepotism. Hindiwell is excellent with this.
This excessive population of E bands has been going on for decades. I recall about 20 years ago under top dawg DC they eliminated about 50% of VPs. Within a few years (maybe 3) they had replaced all of them and even added more.
@qv uh, all of them? This company needs multiple approvers at VP level talking about what would be a trivial decision at other companies of similar size.
Spill some names! Who are the VPs in meetings with other VPs! :)
Embrace the painnnnnnn
@gc Everybody at HW is a Director now. If ur not, uh oh.
Well, we get promoted. Then we have all these friends. We want to promote them too. You’re 100,000 each. Corporate approves it. You didn’t negotiate your pay. That is why you put all your friends and on top. Plant managers help these people out.
Keep hiring your friends. Let’s see how top-heavy we can get.
@d5 The HR VP ISC doesn’t even know how to spell Honeywell, dude is worthless and in way over his head. Watching from a few levels down, it’s all about taking care of your favorites.
Go down a level. How many directors are there?
How many architects and chiefs do we need to get things done here? Too many chiefs and not enough Indians. Well, there are a lot of Indians.
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@ef I'll bite- Future Shaper Band? I just threw up in my mouth
We need new a new BAND. I think they should have an F band. E stands for Executive. F stands for? Help me out please. HR is waiting.
Looks at the new HR Aero VP jokers. How many do you need to just forward emails. SMH….
One word: Nepotism. There’s a rotten core in this organization that a certain group of people continue to propagate. It’s not specifically one racial group either, I’d describe them as a political class that prop each other up through PowerPoint decks with no substance or ability to execute behind them. The executives are so enamored by this that they fail to do any real due diligence and we regularly end up in an “emperor has no clothes” situation across multiple businesses.
breakup will not reduce the fat
only when share price drops by half and the whole management is fired
You have to understand, these E-Band members are THE COMPANY! You are just a part IN Honeywell, not a part OF Honeywell. This is a 2 to 3 decade roll up of the Honeywell Old Boy network. As their factories closed they were given cushy jobs with very little to no direct reports. Think.. the last members of the Titanic as the stern went in.... they still think the boats will return to pick them up! I can hear the whistles now..... Nearer My God to Thee is still playing for them....
600 eband and counting!
Breakup will help with management bloat.