Thread regarding SAP layoffs

@cp that explains why SAP is trying to get rid of engineers and want to hire more non-technical people leads as development managers. Their greatest skill isn't computer science. Their greatest skill is navigating SAP's bureaucracy to get work done by third party engineering consultants in third world countries by laying off Europeans and Americans.

@da exactly, software has become a mature industry but the market is still expecting growth like the early days of the internet or the iPhone. They have decided after the flop of vr and Blockchain that the next big thing is ai, but have no viable business model for it. The difference is this time they're putting trillions of dollars into investment of hardware that has a very short lifespan. The only companies laughing are those who provide the raw hardware like tmc who are raking in huge profits that none of the model or agent providers are remotely close too

@da it's two-fold. The first objective is to distract from the falling share price and hope it goes up. And the second objective is to create a false narrative that AI can replace humans and use this narrative to conduct layoffs in countries such as Germany and France where it is hard to do so. AI is one of the largest SAP costs at the moment and instead of cutting down on area executive bonuses (which are 350% of employee bonuses), they wish to conduct more layoffs.

@cx What's the goal? All of these Tech companies are out of ideas. They're trying to find the next trillion dollar wave, through AI & datacenters.

The AI & datacenter bubble will pop.

@cx that's what they want but it will cripple the economy very quickly because workers spend there money which is what generates profits for owners. If nobody is employed and in poverty they won't spend anything and so there will be no profit. Add the fact that these trillion dollar investments are redundant within three years means it will die very quickly

Lawyers are going to have a field day suing companies around the liability of unknowable code.

Many people seem to be ignoring the fact that massive AI datacenters are being build across the world. What is the goal? To automate everything is one of the goals. Where do you think AI will be when all of these datacenters are powering it? Question to those who think AI will not take over the jobs.

SAP is now a Finance, Sales and Marketing organisation that is hampered by having to have an engineering team. Being able to replace the engineering with outsourced third party consultants combined with AI so there is no need to be burdened by the cost of engineering (you know the ones that actually produce value rather than those who merely enabled its conversion to cash) is our CFO's wet dream that has him ho--y all night.

@cg what interview?

Rather than being caught up in the rhetoric, I’m more concerned about the mental modal of the C Suite which came out during this interview with this Australian media. It is a surprise that this hasn’t caught much attention in German media. This is a reflection of what their plans are in the long run and will move towards it year by year.
All in on AI was a headless chicken exercise full of chaos and now their plan is to run the company like AIOAI.

So that’s why they added “being late to meetings” as a parameter in performance reviews. It seemed like a strange metric—until you find out who’s responsible for tracking it - Scrum masters. The very people whose job is to make meetings actually useful. They’ve now been given a more important mission: tracking who shows up late to useless meetings. And then reporting it to managers. Who, in turn, evaluate people based on how punctually they attend discussions about why nothing is getting done.
The system is now complete. Productivity hasn’t improved, but at least it’s being measured perfectly.

With luck, your board can be replaced by AI.

As a developer, I can confirm that using AI increases the amount of time it takes to do the same task. Yet our managers force us to use AI and keep saying that our productivity needs to improve. They're not delusional. They are just creating the perfect rhetoric to lay off without impunity. As a company, we are more focused on "using AI" than generating value for our customers.

Chuck will not be replaced by AI.

LOL. There's absolutely no chance of this happening. He's just desperate to pump the stock price and he'll say anything at this point.

We've made almost no progress toward full automation. Every time I use the AI to generate code it makes glaring mistakes. You're telling me that some executive or business person will supervise code generation, testing, and deployment? Or, magically, no one will supervise it and it will work 100% if the time? It absolutely isn't going to happen.

@OP also most business users to be replaced. See SAP Autonomous Enterprise....We all know its comming.