This feels like an Elon Musk moment. Was asked to put in four bullets what my role is with metrics supporting it? Can’t say “Oversees” or anything high level. Is Director level being hit next?
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Several Directors have been RIFd over the past 2 years. Now when will they RIF higher-ups?
@vq No women either
Interesting replies here as I wasn't aware how many directors take credit for work done by their subordinates, thought it was just mine.
Under Carelon Insights, we just make sure a number of workers don't get ownership.
Now this is just hilarious! Our Staff VP spent this week temporarily pulling some of our worker bee tasks and giving it to the Directors they like so that they have 4 things to report that they do. Once the Director level rif has passed and their favorite Directors are saved, the work will fall back into our laps to continue doing. You would think with all of this AI, they would know based on system activity that the work was just moved temporarily.
@vq I would be okay if their AI could tell the CHRO all of the Directors whose work laptops and work cell phone activity is 4 or less hours per day on average and they are the ones targeted for rifs. I am sure AI would get a lot of hits on those criteria.
The person who is leading all layoff plans is the CHRO. No heart. Watch carefully.
@cm Do we work together?
I have an idea. Since the people doing to work know the most about which Directors are earning their paychecks and which are not, have everyone below the Director level submit up to 10 names of Directors that aren't doing anything and should be tossed out. Rif the top 100 Directors that get the most votes. Ties? Put those names in a hat for a drawing until you have the headcount cut that you are seeking. Want to weed out the money wasters, ask the people who are in the know, the workers beneath the Directors.
As a worker bee that has taken abuse from numerous Directors over the years, do you think I am dropping a tear at hearing this news? Nope!!!!
There is an old game show they tried to revive “Whose line is it anyway” - 3 contestants one had a real occupation or backstory - the other 2 were liars, the celeb panelists had to guess the true person. This version is “who is actually doing the work” - the two do nothings will have time to take the BS classes and will present like they walk on water, the poor sap carrying the load and doing the work, will be the one to get riffed, because the upper management celebs can’t tell the difference.
@ja useless meetings huh? Triple booked every hour of most days - seriously? Really? Unreal kr-p
My Director is going to be slinging the BS, hard. All they do is have useless meetings booked on their calendar all day.
They are ranking employees to be RIF'd
Its the precursor to a RIF. I cannot tell you how many times I've listed everything I do and the amount of time it takes. Every time a RIF took place a few months or weeks later.
My guess is, they were planning for the director in-office mandate to report into offices three days a week to cause a lot of the directors to leave the company. Between directors getting exceptions and just swiping badges and leaving (including on the weekends), not as many people quit as they had hoped. So now they have to collect information on those same directors to justify laying off one person versus another. Directors, welcome to the world the worker bees have been living for years now. Doesn't feel good now that it has hit home, does it???
@OP good they are asking. I see directors do nothing all day. They should remove that layer. They are a bottleneck and incompetent. Pushing papers and never have a perspective. I just go to their boss. My director has been here for 23 years and just sits around. Get rid of the directors!!!!
Fire all directors and spare the people who do actual work
They did that years ago when some new HR person pushed the concept of 8x8. Everyone had to have at least 8 Direct Reports (DRs) and there could only be 8 levels between CEO and frontline staff. It is a way to flatten the org and get rid of people who don’t have enough DRs.
Gosh I'm getting the vibe that Directors have few fans. Can't imagine why? They contribute so much...sorry, they are so supportive of the teams they micromanage....sorry again... they are ....I got nothing
Some of the Directors will have a hard time coming up with one bullet point
They are changing direct report requirements to 7-9. Some have 0-2.
@OP shucks! Having to prove their value.. Rats.
How do you do that when you leave during the day all the time to take care of personal interests and take an outrageous amounts of PTO - truly unlimited. All year long
Worthless role - not a team advocate, total CYA and only yours - could NOT do the job of those who report to them that they constantly question and criticize
They should do the same thing with staff VPs.
Good. Too many directors anyway.
That is easy -
- Su-k up to the ones above me - Task performed at least 4 times a day.
- Lie to cover for the ones above me being nowhere around - Task performed at least 3 times weekly.
- Lie to subordinates as mandated by the ones above me - Task performed at least twice weekly.
- Take credit for other people's work to the ones above me - Task performed daily if I can find something to take credit for.....
Do like my Directors do. Take credit for all of the work performed by the people reporting to you. It seems to work great for them!
Follow the lead of the Town Hall clown show and just say that you’re leaning into everything you do!