Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

RIF answer from LE

LE quote from the results call today

“ Well, I think we have substantial advantages because we are an infrastructure company and we are an application company. There are 2 things that happen. As an application company, we needed -- we knew we had to start generating our applications. We just couldn't do it with armies of people anymore. We still need people, don't get me wrong. But the number of people we need is substantially less. And we can build/generate much better applications than we can hand build. And we've been working on these AI application generators for some time, and we're actually using them.”

Might explain the rif. But has anyone seen these magical application generators that will replace the Fusion devs at scale and with security and zero bugs while not breaking anything on a deploy?

Anyone want to comment how we won’t miss the dearly departed staff?


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Post ID: @OP+1k4rzq02t

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@cm and when the DB is down who are we going to blame? It’s like with self driving? Who takes the L and goes to jail?

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Post ID: @cy+1k4rzq02t

@cc "So we’re going to vibe code the Exadata stack now?" - Yeah. vibing is gonna work, because specs never have ambiguity in them.

I'm sure that AI's can crank out code, and it might not even core dump. But it reminds me of projects that were offshored and when the code came back it required a lot of painstaking rework, and in some cases the code was discarded and the onshore team had to start over.

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Post ID: @cm+1k4rzq02t

What Larry is talking about I think is APEX? So we’re going to vibe code the Exadata stack now?

LOL
Apex apps are almost as complex as exadata stack/drivers/etc right?

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Post ID: @ch+1k4rzq02t

I got laid off from the Exadata org. What Larry is talking about I think is APEX? So we’re going to vibe code the Exadata stack now?

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Post ID: @cc+1k4rzq02t

@a5 yeah, probably by a "peer review" AI. lol

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Post ID: @ca+1k4rzq02t

Salesforce CEO billionaire Benioff recently said: “Salesforce recently replaced 4K support jobs with AI”

Oracle isn’t immune to this trend

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Post ID: @br+1k4rzq02t

Letting go of people is and saying AI is generating code and AI is taking over jobs as it is more efficient is just adding to the hype which is already huge. AI of today is making the work only 20% easier for coders and maybe 10% for non-coders. You still need people who need to come up with creative solutions and verify if it is working. This rif is just a means to further inflate the stock price. The AI capability is nowhere near what they claim they are

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Post ID: @bm+1k4rzq02t

I do not think anyone is going to write a prompt and hit deploy to production. However generating will get you anywhere from 80 to 95 percent to the finish line.

For greenfield pilot maybe. It will give you 5% within existing legacy stacks like Fusion. The vast majority of work is integration between external and legacy systems, where you actually have to investigate and understand what is happening there and what field goes where. AI in principal is not capable doing it, it's a glorified stackoverflow search.

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Post ID: @bg+1k4rzq02t

they are clueless boomers, AI is magic to them
it's way worse that 90s Internet craze, and it will crash even harder

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Post ID: @bf+1k4rzq02t

Recently laid off employees are in denial they are being replaced by AI

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Post ID: @ax+1k4rzq02t

Larry doesn’t get to be the second richest man in the world by telling BS: somehow he must be telling the truth about AI; so are billionaires Zuckerberg and Nadella when mentioning AI replacing developers.
Money talks, BS walks…

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Post ID: @aw+1k4rzq02t

I don’t think it’s BS; this is the same narrative as Meta, Microsoft etc.. where 30% or so of coders have been replaced with AI; and we are at the baby stage of AI…

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Post ID: @a6+1k4rzq02t

@a2 Will the AI generated code be peer reviewed? How will it be reviewed?

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Post ID: @a5+1k4rzq02t

I call BS.

Classic Larry

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Post ID: @a3+1k4rzq02t

I do not think anyone is going to write a prompt and hit deploy to production. However generating will get you anywhere from 80 to 95 percent to the finish line.

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Post ID: @a2+1k4rzq02t

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