Thread regarding Optum layoffs

Production roles in Ireland just got eliminated. Company wide.

Moving jobs off-shore this is nothing new it has been going on for years and years can't blame the current president for this

@bn 100% Agree

@ex
1/2 of my team was laid of on 1/23 with those positions offshored to India and Philippines. The remainder of the team has begun training the offshore team. Their jobs cannot be far behind

Don't know about India/Ireland but we literally trained the Phillipines for our work and now that entire staff has been let go so they could hire India. We refused to be involved in that training and they are sc--wing do much stuff up worse than it already was. I live watching the company fail

@c3 Right now Optum needs Ireland for Epic support. India-based staff are not allowed by the vendor to work in/on that system, so Ireland can’t be eliminated unless Optum has a viable plan for replacing that support.

@cg his leader or skip are probably based in India.

Mr. 100x bobblehead dork should be deported

@ez Especially when you factor in those greasy kickbacks.

@ex so true. I have seen no new hires in my area in Ireland in 5/6 years. We have lost 25% to reduction in force. And in that time we have hired 5x in the US and no one in India. So I don’t understand the narrative here. Ireland is considered on-shore and the 20% pay differential is old news. For the most part we have parity. Ireland ain’t cheap.

@ex Remember it is always cheaper to hire someone offshore than in USA.

Offshore employees are getting rift as well. You know that right? I can’t understand why people are still trying to spend the narrative that the jobs are going offshore. The jobs are being replaced with AI. It’s not being replaced by another human.

One of the senior leaders mentioned going to India for work. Why would they go there though? We don’t have any offshore in our depts.

@bn You still think Trump actually gives a flying f u c k about anyone other than himself?

Ireland is about to get tossed because they are even too expensive for this company now. It's India and Philippines. This should not ne news. They are trying to offshore as much as the gov will let them.

Wish they offered relocation for us to Ireland. Much milder winters than Minnesota. Less bullsh-t in the employment laws, less clownshit in their culture/infrastructure.

@bh what projects were moved?

Wish Trump would put a stop to this outsourcing or make these companies pay some sort of high fee if they do so.

Correct, I have directly observed multiple projects from the Consumer Office (CXDP) go to Ireland and then most US-based employees let go soon after.Typically, you won't know about it until it's too late. Ireland workers earn ~15%-20% less than US staff, and they don't have the 3-month transition window as required in India. However, Ireland staff aren't as easy to lay off compared to US. I suppose the Ireland cost savings, 5 hour time difference (way better than India), and ability to communicate in English more clearly makes it worth the effort. Plus, Ireland government provides many incentives to grow teams there. Just look at the current job postings for design and technical roles.

@av Ireland is more destructive. I go to ireland once a year. India threatens IT. Ireland literally threatens everything.

A senior VP in ireland literally told my boss that does not expect US based 31's+ in the future. Is he correct? I don't know, but that's clearly his intention.

@a6
How about tariffs on foreign labor?

@a6 I totally agree! They keep outsourcing our jobs. How are we supposed to survive?

Former Optum employee found guilty of fraud via ‘ghost employee’ scheme

A California man was accused of hiring a friend for a fictitious position and receiving a portion of wages from the no-show job via kickbacks.

Consulting, contracting or outsourcing is the name of corruption as it involves kickbacks.

Worked with Ireland for 3.5 years but the big culprit is teams in India. Thousands of people and counting more. In this dire situation there are absolutely no layoffs and decent merit increase with acceptable bonuses. Good luck to employees in USA either you are American or immigrants settled here, ready to get layoffs if not now maybe sooner.

Corporations who offshore a major chunk of their jobs should be taxed to the Nth degree. This is destroying our economy.