The leadership should be worried, because everybody with any options seems to be preparing to leave. I think people have had enough of this place, its toxicity, and blatant disrespect for employees. You can only push people so far before something snaps.
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This is supposed to be a forum to discuss layoffs, not complain about your employer. All the shows is that the people complaining are either fake or they’re so unqualified they can’t find another job. Because if they’re truly as disgruntled as they claim to be, nothing should be holding them back. The only reason they’re still at OpenText is because they can’t find another job because their skills su-k. So either leave or or shut up
@p0 yee. Kinda have to agree, nv.
This is a place that's supposed to be a hub for layoffs and their impact. If you want somewhere more constructive/positive that's linkedin. But linkedin is fake because if you don't glaze your workplace other employers may not want you. Most layoffs/major firings will just not be positive. They tend to have at best some negative implications, even if it was a sound decision. Even on glassdoor there can be a lot of routine criticism. The reddit is just dead.
I'd argue so many places having different, negative discussions is a sign, but, you do what you gotta. If it's negative enough to be affecting you, find something. As someone likely to stay and upskill, I find the tea valuable.
@nv , if you are sick of this forum, then leave. I extend the same advice you are dissing out to frustrated OT folks who are waiting to leave.
I am sick of all the people complaining about the company and threatening to leave. Those still here either are willing to push through the pain to see the company grow or don’t have marketable skills therefore are stuck here.
Which one are you?
@mg considering this sounds like ESL
Convert what you make to CAD/USD
Some places it may go a lot further - but if it's less than CA/US equivalent salaried, sorry but you're potentially being exploited.
Nobody is worry even if mass of people would leave!
Anyone who wants to leave can do that instantly.
Many of us still got paid well so they are not about leaving.
@ks DO IT!
Let them see how things work when it's all based out of India...
I tell you something else that makes no sense right now: why is there an ad campaign for OT on electronic billboards in and around Toronto airport? That strikes me as wasted money. And it contributes to my waning motivation.
Global Corporate walk out September 7, 2025.
@hy yall
We grab an intern. Save SO much money and they likely won't know how to do anything dangerous. If it works expand to ELT while we actually try and fix the things.
That sounds like anime almost
'I was grabbed by a global software firm as CEO at 16.'
@hn yeah some of our interdepartmental interactions are wack like that.
Sometimes cloud and ps have been caught with internal keys on a customer's environment (mostly for content management line.) We know its internal because it'll have our name on it as entity/owner. Some folks like Licensing immediately point that out - but no one really reports it. Save anyone recording it in case details. There's zero consequence for something actually losing money.
Those teams also dont get or just dont do basic support/delivery checks prior to starting a project.
My fights have usually been between Sales and Renewals though - some times neither department actually come fix a customer's record issues. There's also how only some support teams are affected by extended support. Which is counterintuitive because if you got decent IT you really dont have to spend on it (so Renewals loses a commission option.)
There's a lot worse I go through - but that cloud/ps one may get some lawyers involved so we calling it a day.
We need a boring CEO and boring executive that just gets us back on track… maybe even have the company purchased by private equity so we no longer need the 3 ring circus for shareholders.
@hp the problems begin and end with “ELT”
ELT is penny wise and pound foolish. Fake it till you make it and hope you can make it with no funding or headcount. That works for a startup building the next ki-ler app that will change the world. It does not work when you are trying to keep customers interested in old products long in the tooth. And with most of the workforce being older, we have been around the block enough to know management will never be happy and employees won’t be happy until they are given the tools to be successful and be able to sell products and make customers successful. We need to stop spending on Sandy Ono infomercials and focus on want makes us successful not short term financial gains for the ELT.
@gx , yup, that OT alright. When you tell management the their good idea has implementation issues, they don't want to hear about it or escalate it upward. It is as if the lower management have given up on the ELT. ELT don't want to hear the bad news or how it will cost more to do a good job. Just get it done with no extra resources and with flaws and at all. Just so they can tell Mark that it was all done.
The competition between the managers are also so stupid. Cloud stealing from on premises and services stealing from services. Paul robbing from Peter and not willing to expend any effort even if it mean extra revenue for another dept as the revenue does not come into your dept. It's like the tv show Survivor.
That's the culture for you.
Its the long and winding road to nowhere. Wake up one day and nobody else needs your services.
@gq Its because they kept gutting the IT infrastructure. They do Rif's, then we would have to take the workload to just keep the lights on. The IT leadership made it abundantly clear that we were working from a deficit, however the decision makers didn't care and just kept cutting.
Another big issue here at OpenText we have not invested in our systems. Anyone that lived through the merging the SMB salesforce instances can tell you that we don’t have good IT resources to modernize systems, but that was not made clear to the ELT. So if we can’t do that, there is no way we can implement AI/Automation tools. We need to have realistic goals.
https://www.entefy.com/blog/how-legacy-it-systems-fail-businesses/#:~:text=Outdated%20technology%20often%20lacks%20the,customer%20expectations%20and%20industry%20advancements.
https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbesbusinesscouncil/2024/10/23/legacy-systems-how-outdated-tech-can-poison-your-business/
@d5 Yes. Isn't it painfully obvious that a company who is known for mass layoffs will perform more mass layoffs to make business units easier to sell?
It must be comfortable under that rock where you've been living.
@df It's almost as if people don't want to gamble with their careers/livelihoods.
We know there's downsizes coming. ELT admitted it. Could be a bank/debt thing, could be selling portions to companies. Now, I'm no bigwig, but if I know I'm in one of those departments at risk, why would I gamble?? That tends to get people homeless and starving.
OT is going to be different, could be better, could spiral and get worse. But if those folks had been paid better, they'd have means to stick it out if they chose.
I'm actually in one of the safest departments, and I can see where they're coming from. While we're unlikely to lose anyone here, 100% we have our own issues (one expensive one I may be accidentally mediating myself.)
They're people, not sheep. They're following instinct they feel is logocal;if you want em back literally just prove em wrong. Improve and re-open those slots to the same region. No offshoring.
We’ve heard the same statement over and over for years. The truth is Mark made it a very difficult environment, but he’s gone. The interim CEO, James, is a fantastic gentleman who truly loves the business and cares for the employees.
And we don’t know where the next CEO will be and what his or her policies will be. Jumping ship now is premature because the company today is not the company. It was 30 days ago and not the company. It will be in 30 days.
Anybody that has skills that are in the man should wait and see what happens to the company before they jump ship and make important life decision decisions with partial information.
@d8 *if done well
OT's implementation history is tissue paper. AI and automation done well - that's one thing. So far most automation attempts have gone wrong; ai initiatives still have a high failure rate alone.
We do have places where it's feasible. But, that would require OT to be willing to fix it. Properly. May not be popular, but you can automate a lot of Renewals for example. True-ups could be millions or maybe depending on customer too. But we're too scared to audit en masse and address it. Even though one clean sweep could help make most of a department redundant.
However, I set up a poll on glassdoor. Seems like a good chunk of folks there will leave if mass layoffs happen around them. And if I lose one support I got here, I'm out too.
Your move OT, do it flawlessly or you won't have people to be human~
Robotic Process Automation (RPA) will replace many tasks in the next 4 years. Thus, we’ll need a lot less people.
https://www.opentext.com/what-is/robotic-process-automation
RPA uses software robots to automate manual repetitive tasks performed everyday by your employees, such as mundane data entry and transaction processing tasks. Automating such tasks not only frees those valuable resources for more strategic activities but also improves business process efficiency and effectiveness.
RPA works by using simple tools to train robots how to use applications, just like humans do, through the application user interface. Building automations becomes accessible to both technical and nontechnical users, making it possible to innovate at speed and scale. RPA excels where you need to automate tasks in applications without APIs or want to quickly create an automation without engaging specialized skillsets or disrupting current operations.
@bn what do you mean trimmed aggressively? Once sale is pending they will layoff a bunch of people?
@bn wait what
We (hr/ot) are worried about losing people before we can choose who we lose??
Or is this more 'core' people are jumping ship too? People with connections (sales or consultants I get bet) are the other departments bleeding that bad already?
Sales especially is concerned. HR has implemented a new notification process for senior leadership to be aware of employees existing. There is great concern about a large employee exit in non core areas as well as support functions since these roles will be trimmed aggressively to ready the non core business units for the pending sale.
Those who had options have already left. Those
who remain are not here by choice, but due to a lack of alternatives.
We have been in recession since 2023, and every day I read about reductions in force and layoffs affecting thousands of employees in the information technology sector.
I don’t believe the staff at OpenText have the luxury of resigning. They are essentially sentenced to remain in the stagnant swamp of OpenText until, with a bit of luck, they regain their lost freedom — by being laid off.
But, no o regrets for leaving a cesspool—consider it a blessing in disguise. Freedom comes at a price; it is costly, yet always worth it. Think ahead, embrace the future, and rest assured that water and oxygen taste far better outside of Opentext.