Are these roles genuinely open, or are they being posted as a formality after someone has already been selected? I have applied to several and have not received any real response or feedback. What's going on here?
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Depends, especially on the grade level. I know one internal spot that had one (under qualified) internal applicant and hundreds of external applicants. Higher positions are more likely to have someone in mind. But even then, I've seen someone more qualified end up taking those spots...especially if they have recent external experience. The bank seems to believe that external people with embellished resumes are going to be better than internal candidates with years of specific experience.
I applied internally and the hiring manager didn’t have the ba--s to tell me himself. That guy is big fat pu--y.
Because legally to issue H1B visas for the job they have to document an American can't do the job. So they post insane job qualifications, fake interview people, document the process, state nobody could fill the role and apply for the H1B visa.
I applied for an internal position 2 months ago and met with the hiring panel over a month ago and still haven’t heard anything. They keep saying they’re still interviewing but at the same time you know who you want. I have a feeling I waited almost 3 months just to be denied. Why not just send the rejection email after the panel interview instead of dragging me along!
@ag I interviewed and was told by HR that there were over 400 applications
I know a few people where were picked before interviewing. The interviews were required by HR so that no one could say the process was unfair. Unfortunately, it’s all politics at this company.
Without saying who, I know of 3 people in Tech who successfully applied for and got moved into new positions via applying for internal openings posted on Workday. All 3 did not know the people or groups they were moving to.
As always it comes down to 2 things: preparation (are you qualified) and luck (some combintaion of: is the market good, will your application get seen, do you know someone)
Of course the higher you get, the more it relies on luck (knowing the right people, rich people networking with each other, friends helping friends, etc.) because lord knows most of the leaders at the highest levels are not competent. Especially if they came from consulting.
I've heard the same grumbling but to be fair , during the past 12 months there have been two people in my group who left for internal roles. If it matters both were relatively lower level / support roles.
I'm in a hub and I've been auto-rejected for every internal job I've applied for in the last 2 years. I don't even get to a recruiter.
Okay some actual advice from a hiring manager here. If you are applying for an internal position, and you don't hear back, you have absolutely every right to reach out to the recruiter and hiring manager in the same email. Hold them accountable for getting back to you.
I can understand how they might not be able to get to respond to a hundred people externally but they should absolutely respond to everybody internally. No excuse whatsoever I don't care how fu--ing busy they are.
But sadly it is true that in order to hire someone we already have in mind, we have to still post out and allow people to apply. Even though we already know who's going to fill the spot.
Also if you work in some business lines where the vice chair says that they will no longer approve hardly any promotion requests, we now have to gain the system and in order to get somebody a promotion that they deserve, we have to post a new position for the same job they have but one grade level above. This is the kind of sh-t show this leadership has created.
I encourage people to take a peek at LinkedIn and look at all the former employees who are just bashing US bank now and how it's run by mo--n consultants.
If I ever get in a position of leadership and I have any say, I will refuse to ever work with a consultant in my entire life. They are the worthless leeches of corporate america. If someone has a McKenzie or something similar on their resume I will throw away their resume.
I would encourage other managers to compile a list with the help of chat GPT or something that gives you a list of the top 20 consulting agencies out there. And consider that your block list.
Speaking from experience, it depends a lot on how well hiring manager works with HR to set up the screening criteria.
With the job market the way it is these roles are often seeing well over 50 applicants. Many, many are getting lost in the shuffle. I suggest making yourself a bit known. Reach out to the listed recruiter and/or get to know people in the business line you’re applying for. A resume and application isn’t enough anymore, anywhere!
@OP Someone has already been selected. Happens time and time again at USB and Elavon.
If you are remote, GK hates you.
If in a hub, contact the HR peons,