Anyone know how they’re handling this? I’d assume the 2025 reviews won’t count since those are about to be released, and December probably won’t roll into the 2026 cycle either.
I’d hope they are a little more lax with the holidays.
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@gr nah they took away our personal space and desks and that’s when they lost my vote. The environment is cold and stiff. Unwelcoming. Not proud to work here any longer.
The fact that anyone is thinking they can NOT obey the 3+ days in office is literally amazing to me. We have been back in the office for years now. In a toxic environment where they are looking for ways to fire people why is trying to get out of going to the office even thought in any rational persons’ mind? Protect yourself. If you work 3 or more days and are in hub, just go in for the for three days. Staying off the radar in the kind of atmosphere is the right play.
@b5 Can confirm, the axe is bigger, longer, heavier this time, has been sharpened, and is ready to swing anytime now. The fat has all been cut with previous layoffs, now we are cutting good people, we are already struggling, 2026 we will be failing due to good talent being given the boot. There's no one left to cut.
@b9 kb0287381 (managers only) states "Don't count approved absences against your team member" in the same paragraph that includes vacation, sick and safe leave, approve leave of absence. The article is called "Management of office work goal: People Leader resource".
I am taking decent (not disclosing) PTO in December and I will not hit 100%. My manager knows how to lead and he/she knows that my case, I will be fine. I am using my rightful pto that I earned.
To the other managers in here besides me, if you hear of a peer manager not using this right, call them out and tell them to do their damn job and read these kb articles. We cannot punish people for using pto. I know some of you managers are out there doing this. Stop being d-mbasses about it.
Let's look at the clues:
- In 2025, HR ramped up BIG TIME the focus on accountability, radical candor, putting in negative conversations/events into Workday checkins (for evidence)
- CEO is forcing directors to a quota of 5-10% below expectation
- Rumors here about big reduction in January
Put all that together and what do you get?
A big sweep to FIRE all "below expectation" people in January. Not lay off, FIRE. Cheap and fast, no severence.
And of anyone who consistently had low numbers for RTO who were assigned a hub. It will be forced.
It makes more physical space for the upcoming 4 days per week. It cuts costs with no severance payout. It raises stock probably getting rid of the "low performers". Instant "organic growth" of 500M. Think about what that does to the stock price (for about a week LOL).
I'm all for getting rid of dead wood, the slackers, they did it to themselves. But when I am being forced to select 1 person to be "below expectation" even if no one on my team deserves it, that I have a problem with. It is happening around the bank confirmed.
This will puts more fear into the workforce in a cr-p job market. Beatings will continue until...
Like I said elsewhere, this dark sociopathic leadership in corporate America is just heating up like boiling a frog. We are slowly noticing it more and more. This will puts more fear into the workforce in a cr-p job market. Beatings will continue until...
If you got a needs improvement, and it's a surprise, screenshot Workday with your phone of your workday checkins because managers were supposed to be talking with you all year about your "poor" performance. If they never said anything and you get shocked with that rating, then you were the one they were forced to select.
The American middle class is getting gutted out. Replaced with elites like our CEO and MC from McKensey and India, contractors in India, and maybe 5,000 onshore low pay FTE coordinator roles for the "lucky" few who will take the fall for WHEN (not if) India fails to deliver as they always do. Pay attention to the politicians who get money from corporate PACs, who push against regulation, against antitrust, and against unions. We are cattle to them. Not people.
Here's a reminder to everyone who has never been a manager. In January, they give us a fixed pool that everyone on the team competes against. You have 0 leeway of going over the pool amount. If you have a pool of 3% per person (lately it's been tiered by grades), the promotions get 8%, the high performers get 5%, the meets will get the scraps, usually 2%. That's assuming you don't have a MC member who reduced the pool even more in early 2025 to save money for god knows what. Their team got even lower raises last February. Regardless of inflation, gas to drive to RTO, parking to park in the garage for RTO. It has been this way the entire time I have been a manager for years.
@b5 Curious where you’re hearing about deep layoffs for Jan? Seems like with the added scrutiny on performance and changes to remote workforce, why we would reduce in one of the largest ways we’ve seen
@b7 it's been removed from the KB article for the average worker. I saved a copy of the original for documentation because I knew they'd take it out eventually.
@b5 give a number, or percentage of the workforce
@av challenge that. Tell them HR literally stated you don't have to make up missed time due to PTO. It says that the KB article for managers.
January layoffs are going to be some of the deepest, most severe the company has ever seen. It is very quiet right now because management is plotting and planning. No reason to plan for growth though, just cut employees and the stock price goes up.
I'm doing what I have to do to get 11 badge in's per month regardless of anything else, maybe I am being over the top, but I'm not going to let that be an easy reason for them to get rid of me.
@at every month right around the 15th seems to be the pattern. This is just how it is now.
@av I don't understand how they can ding you for using the benefits the company provides you. Wtf
They do not give leeway for the holidays. I didn't even work 10 days last December due to PTO and they dinged me.
@a7 Are January layoffs are expected mid-month?
@OP likely more forgiving in Nov and Dec. Holidays, vaca time 8-10 visits probably keeps you out of the dog house
If you already signed your review .. there is your answer lol
I doubt they are lax as they are working on layoff notifications for January.