Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Warn - 60 day

March 31 - April 10th is not some states required 60 days. Even if you count garden leave you would have to be for more than 3+ years to be over 60 days in weeks?


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Post ID: @OP+1kn6p1chp

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@b8 This is not true. I was a remote worker.

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Post ID: @jk+1kn6p1chp

@bn The "reporting to managers at a location" is a red herring as the managers themselves could also be remote. I agree the 50 employees per location was probably a loophole but corporations like Oracle are more than happy to use it to exclude employees not based at physical location

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Post ID: @bp+1kn6p1chp

@bm The point is about 10-day benefits coverage vs 60-day benefits coverage. That is not deducted from any severance.

Any language related to employee location and employee count thresholds was meant for excluding employees of small businesses, not legit employees working as part of mega-corps and reporting to management at a large site.

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Post ID: @bn+1kn6p1chp

@bk I understand you get benefits during the notification period (that you call garden leave). My point is that those weeks are deducted from the final severance. So you were entitled to say 20 weeks of severance but had 8 weeks of notification period, your final severance payment is only for 12 weeks. The way you describe makes it sound like you got the full severance on top of the garden leave payment, which. Is misleading.

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Post ID: @bm+1kn6p1chp

@bh It's not misleading. Benefits are covered during the garden leave.

Employees who work remotely must note this precedent, because state labor departments won't take care of this until there is pressure from press coverage.

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Post ID: @bk+1kn6p1chp

WARN triggers based on the number of employees affected at a given location and doesn't apply to fully remote employees as they aren't tied to a location. Note also any garden leave weeks are deducted from the final severance payment.

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Post ID: @bj+1kn6p1chp

@bg Wasn't the garden leave weeks deducted from the severance? If so your statement is misleading.

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Post ID: @bh+1kn6p1chp

I was hybrid when let go last August. I got 6 weeks of garden leave plus the severance per the formula (4 wks + 1 wk per year of additional service.

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Post ID: @bg+1kn6p1chp

Oracle is claiming remote employees were not part of the mass layoff!

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Post ID: @b8+1kn6p1chp

Here's a pointer to the WARN notice filed by Oracle in Washington State- filed on 3/31 of course. California and other states may have also received filings on 3/31 that may be viewable now.
https://esd.wa.gov/employer-requirements/layoffs-and-employee-notifications/worker-adjustment-and-retraining-notification-warn-layoff-and-closure-database

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Post ID: @b7+1kn6p1chp

OP, your statement is not a question... If you have question why not try looking up the warn act and reading it for yourself? I included the federal link but you will need to look up your state on your own. If someone has to spoon feed you everything it may have contributed to why you got let go.

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/eta/layoffs/warn

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