Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

The policy must vary from group to group. We were explicitly told “at least 4 hours” in the office on RTO days. It doesn’t seem like they are counting every single day down to the minute. If you go outside for breaks or lunches they are taking that into account. My manager says he thinks they are looking more at the overall pattern of your in office hours and the average amount of hours you spend in office, rather than counting every single minute.

@cs+1jre6k9zd Thats a great joke because after a day in the office, I’m not going back to the office when I get back online after dinner.

Let's start with this: they cannot track hours in office consistently across locations. In some locations there is a badge in and out, but not all. without both in and out - can't say definitively how long someone was in the office. Connecting to the network verifies you were there, but duration can't be used since you can be working in the office but not connected.

Labor regs say if there is nothing about the job requiring specific hours to work (e.g. public facing hours that a branch is open, for example) then for exempt workers you are paying someone for the work that they do, not the hours that they work. That's why they had to back off of the language about expecting 8 hours in office.

@cs+1jre6k9zd so by that logic I can work 6 hours in the office, not work anymore that day, and then make up the other 2 hours on my work from home day. So my work from home day id be working 10 hours.

so by your logic if I work 8 hours in the office then come home and put in another hour remote it shouldn't count. unless they have badge in and out at all locations or require some type of app that only works from the WF network to check in and out, it will be very difficult to determine with a high degree of accuracy. Given issues around exempt classification, I say the best they could require is 4 hours. My office doesn't require badging out, so what if I'm online 6 hours then close my computer and go to 2 hours of meetings in a conf room? Or go meet a client or vendor for a couple hours?

Working in the office for a full day means that you don’t work anywhere else but the office on that given day. If you use your laptop for any time on that day from a location that is not in the office, then you didn’t work the full day in the office and didn’t meet the in-office requirement.

@ar+1jre6k9zd

I agree with you in principle, but realistically, if we try to make this argument they’ll just end up making it so 8 hours PTO are required to get an in-office day.

This whole thing sounds like a buff. Just like the guy who insists Wells tracks mouse movements and keystrokes. Wells can’t even track compliance with regulations obviously.

If 4 hours of PTO counts as an “in-office” day, then 4 hours should be the maximum required. Parking garages still get their maximum day rate, that is the maximum meter parking can be renewed for, everyone gets their money so with 4 hours they should be happy.

News flash Jen, we don't give an S what you think.

I kinda think they keep it vague because they want to have it in their back pocket as a “gotcha” excuse they can use to suddenly d*ck otherwise performing employees on bonuses and raises.

there are plenty of people in my team where I can do the amount of work they do in an entire day in a couple hours so I'll go with 2 hours for my full day.

How is this still even a thing. RTO stuff was sooooo 2025. Time to move on

The irony of posts during business hours whining about others not working.

#wellsfargoshitshow in action

@ab+1jre6k9zd ahh dude we do work. We just want flexibility to work the hours that work best for our lives and not be trapped in an office all day for no good reason. Come on bro, stop drinking the kool-aid. Touch grass. Surfs up.

Dude just stop being lazy and work. What a waste of budget paying you.

Generally, that means around 6 hours I bet.

Going to the office with a floor of Indians is like being in a 3rd world call center, PASS

these "leaders" don' have their cr-p together and any alleged disciplinary action based on not being in the office enough would easily be proved as pretextual. they turn a blind eye when some dont show up at all. It's a friggin joke.

@a1+1jre6k9zd so what’s the point of the new report if it’s not tracking hours? And why get everyone all worked up for nothing?

Seems like their lawyers told them to change

No, they realized their reporting was not tracking hours :)