Thread regarding Nike Inc. layoffs

@v5 quit and survive, quit and succeed, stay here and complain - I don't think Nike would care either way , stop thinking there is power with employees, more than half the crowd who were let go will take our position in a heartbeat... I've personally received messages from ex-team mates that they are now open to come back at any capacity,
It's not a great space out there
The choices we have is - stay and work and earn your paycheck and take care of your responsibilities, or find a better path for yourself , yourself - the latter takes some time, and I really hope I can find the latter sooner than later, but until then I am just planning to stay here and have my paycheck.

outsourcing is as American as apple pie. capitalists run this country, have always run it, and will continue to run it as we sit here and blame Indians or remote workers or whatever the latest distraction from the class war is.

the people who shrug and go "thats just business, they owe us nothing!" need to remember that swings the other way too. if you owe us nothing, we owe you nothing. including basic respect. immiserate enough people and reality will come to bite you.

@dr because like any other company and Nike is a company not a Family no matter what EH is trying to portray. Profit Margins trump employee security, what ever happened is sad and tough and not fair to folks who were let go for no fault of their own, no one is denying that.
But this is how corporate works, this time it was them, I could be next, but I don't see Nike different from any other company , and that makes it much easier to deal with the separation when it comes...

Nike owes us employees nothing, they pay us to do a job, if the results are not to their liking and they dont see value in what we do , we will be kicked out, any company in the world would do that.

What do you think happens when the govt disrupt tax paying/ law abiding legal immigrants livelihood? And spread hatred against the H1bs?

They move back and take handful of jobs with them and later expand the offshore presence bringing up the costs/productivity comparison.

End result? No more tax to state/govt, no more contribution to local economy/housing. As simple as that.

@fm ya nepotism

so, it's happening and even as it happens the very people who are losing their very own jobs to it, still defend it......stop and think, just imagine, that yes, this could be true

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/man-says-he-got-job-responses-after-changing-surname-to-singh-on-resume-three-emails-in-24-hours/articleshow/130732980.cms

btw, India didn't win, nepotism won. huge difference.

@e0 there are hundreds of cheap shoes out there, diluting the brand further for quick sales won't help in the long run, only damage

maybe create a good cricket shoe or something actually useful for indian markets

really though, we're talking shoes here, I mean, this isn't a technology product, it's a damn shoe that the end of the day

tastes change, markets changes, product demand falters

Make cheaper shoes so people in India can buy them?! Not create lower cost shoes so struggling American families can buy them??

@bx The hard truth is if you destroy enough people’s lives the consequences are unpredictable and destabilizing.

having corporate presence in India makes sense to support the business doing actual business in India

however that is not the case here and the nature of the OP, what is happening is that the bulk of the innovation and good paying local jobs have left whq, and have been directly sent to India. How could anyone feel good about that?

Reading the linkedin posts of employees thoughts and disappointment, how can that not bother you, how could you say it's ok?

It matters, to say oh well, that's the way the economy goes, work goes to the lowest bidder and 'tough'. Not buying that, it's not true, things can be better, so the question is why, why did they do it.

And that is the issue, can we can do better and if we can do better, than we should do better.

Apparently the maxim, "do the right thing" is long gone, lost hope, forever in the past, because nothing about these layoffs, and especially this round, has any glimmer of 'do the right thing'

@df most of the 70k workers are not corporate and not affected by corporate mass layoffs. They also are closer to the brand by the nature of their job, so are already a strong promoted of the brand.

lets get real, how many of GT workers cared about brand loyalty before working at the swoosh and being indoctrinated to buy/wear and show of sparkling clean shoes

@bx, that makes some sense to me. However, #1: how do you suppose India's villages (which are home to most of the population) are supposed to buy a $100 pair of shoes? Has anyone thought of that? I mean, yes, the big cities have a lot of mega-rich people, but the majority of the population in India does not have the income to buy a $100 pair of shoes. Please create lower-priced shoe lines to reach everyone, even in the US. #2, before you expand into other countries, fix the issues in the US first, or alongside- favoritism/nepotism, bias, and talent leaving.

@de why would we only count corporate , other employees do not help the bran grow?

@dd we only count corporate and that's around 10,000, so we're looking at a 20% cut plus the other cuts, it's more like 30% over the last few years

@bx the question is - by distancing ex employees, their Friends and Family in EHQ, and now WHQ in Tech , will they be able to manage the hold in US, EMEA.

The answer unfortunately for the employees is , yes they can - they let go of 300 + in EHQ, and then 1400 in US, let's say a roundoff 2000. that's 3% of their employees they still have 97% to highlight the brand in other domains

Nike Employees need to understand that US and Europe will always lose on numbers to Asia particularly, stop complaining about cutoffs in the US as if they are biggest potential market, that market is won, it's about maintaining the lead
The potential market is China ( Nike understands this), India ( Nike is making moves there), and all other heavily populated countries.

Purchasing power is low in most countries - but sheer numbers will make 5% market range into Billions , it does not have to be 40-45%.

Target that 5 % in India - 75 Mil People, China another 70 mil, and so on... start small and grow there...

Nike needs Asian market to grow, that is the hard truth, they can appease them by creating jobs while get cheaper labor and entice them towards the brand ...India is the biggest opportunity, that's all....

You didn't know that Nike does business in India.

Why is everything posted on #buynothing on slack get snatched up by an Indian person in .5 seconds? Literally how do they do it, do they not work during the day? It happens literally every time, sometimes by the same person.

@ah If they are saying they are ruining GT because they are Indians, then they are uneducated and racist. Saying that the current Indian leaders are ruining GT because they just happen to be bad leaders, they would be correct. Nobody but a racist, bigoted id--t would judge a person's worth solely on their race.

@ae doesn't sound uneducated, sounds more like the hard truth

Imagine being this uneducated and still thinking you’re in a position to judge anyone let alone a country. It’s cute, really. Get back to me when you’ve graduated from something other than a anonymous forum comment section.

@OP Yes, Nike is being conquered by India, but they also lost the innovation race. The talent is exiting Nike (via layoffs or on their own).