Thread regarding U.S. Bank layoffs

Curious how many swipe the door and leave people got exposed by this?

Well this will be fun. FAQ specifically says that Q1 will count for needing 60%. And it sounds like that sc--wed a lot of people because nearly EVERYONE was operating on an 11 day guidance given by their managers.
Help me understand how in February, I was 100%, in March I was 100% and now I’m under 60% (which is the new 100%). No leader in this company better ding someone for Q1 when a. They told us it was 11 days and our dashboard said 100%, and b. Your updates skewed the numbers so effectively that now it appears we weren’t 100%.

@bf Yes, it's changing the tracking rules retroactively that has folks in limbo. For instance, I go into the office for 4 hours today, then a dentist appt (near home) and then on VPN for another 4+ hours. I will currently get credit. But do I need to make up that day? Don't sc--w me in Q3 for days in Q2 due to lack of transparency.

This HR leadership disaster reminds me that I need to watch Office Space again.

@b7 The way the rules are structured this month, that is correct. Be aware the bank does change the rules and retroactively apply the new rules to old months so your history of complying may suddenly show you as never having complied.

@b9 Agreed. I'm doing a similar evaluation about whether or not I want to continue here. It's not one single issue, it's a combination of many things that just aren't working for me and that may mean it's just time to exit.

@bb i saw that, i like that all that does instill uncertanty, fear, wiggle room, and no basiss for truth.. just fear mongering.. If they have the data they need to share it.

anyone else super excited to hear GunJ on the call react to questions about this with a "It gives provides you more flexibility" we should turn that into a drinking game. That and everytime they dont answer a question directly...

The FAQ does say that currently time isn't a factor with IP tracking.

"Yes, the IP address data also tracks the duration of time worked from that location. Currently, the data is not being incorporated into our dashboard and reports."

@b8 recheck your math. My workday specifically shows my PTO in March and my 60% is based on the total number I was available after PTO

It just makes my decision to retire early even easier. I've gone along with this nonsense for too long. It's demoralizing and demotivating. The new US Bank is not for me anymore.

@av

False. It the past PTO or Sick days COUNTED as an office day. Yes it didn't show up in reporting, but managers were instructed to count them. Now they don't.

So the total number of days we have to be in the office per year just went up between 30-50 depending on individual circumstances.

This seems like we could work 12 days in a row in the office and then work the rest of the month at home?

This su-ks.. I'm in the office at least 4+ hours each day and 12 days a month. The new calculation averages me at 1 day a month.

So as long as we connect to the corporate WiFi it will say we were compliant?

@ax is there documentation of this? If so I would love to read where the EU told them No.

@b0 EU told them they cannot track employees by IP. EU is very strict when it comes to privacy.

@ae this 6+ hours thing doesn't make any sense for the tracking. I'm pretty consistently in for 5+ hours and all of my days have been tracked accurately.

If it's 6 hours and I come in and then have to leave to log on from home because I have a sick kid I just don't get credit for that day? Fu-k that. Absolutely not. And then if I come in an extra day if the week because I'm short on hours one day to get some extra a-s in desk time in it just doesnt count if it's under 6 hours? Nah. That's deceptive and abusive, and straight up unethical.

@av No, it's 13.2 days, so to get to "at least" 60% of your available days as in office days you would need to do 14 days in office, which would get you to 63.6%. If you only do 13 days you will be at 59% which will show as non compliant. Total BS but that's the way the tracking report is set up.

Welcome to the Bank of Burger King, where salaried exempt employees are now having to track shift work.

@ax wait what do you mean the EU told them no?

It’s not 6 hours. I’m consistently on site and connected 6 plus for 11 days a month and some of my past months only report as little as 3 days. FAQ also states they aren’t using hours on site as a tracking tool.

@aw I doubt 6 hours as well since I rarely hit 6 hours and got credit for around half of the days I've been in the office over the past few months. I don't know if that means they're tracking a smaller number of hours or if the tracking is just straight messed up.

The EU told them NO so now they will punish North America employees! I smell a lawsuit.

Not sure about the 6hr requirement (until they move the goalposts again) as I had 2 Fridays where I was only in for 4ish hours. Got credit for those days.

Unpopular opinion but in some ways this helps. It now tracks PTO so we aren’t held to making up days or weeks we are on PTO in the month.
A fatal flaw they need to figure out are for people who travel for work. Can’t fly and spend 6 hours onsite in most cases. So we are punished for travel days. The other thing is that if you don’t take PTO in April, that’s 13 days you need to be in office.

@af What email are you talking about?

@af What email are you referring to?

@ae Can you elaborate on the 6+ hours thing? You have to be connected to the bank network for 6 or more hours for your in-office day to count?

@af What email are you referencing?

This place is the worst. Now I see why key people in RM&C that were hired to be 100% remote keep leaving.

@af What email was this?

So is it 4 hours or 6 hours a day? And what if you do 3 hours at home and 6 in office, will that count?

The email is funny because they don't parse out how the system decides if you login in a hub and then later that day login at home. Should I not check my emails or work at home now? Every rollout is a disaster that leaves more questions than answers and this Elcio and et al keep getting away with su-king at their jobs

Apparently the tracking had a bunch of adjustments. Added in PTO, no more badge swipes - all IP address and USB connection. Which would explain for some why VPN didn’t track if you were onsite. Also, 6+ hours. If your IP tracked less while in office, it doesn’t count.
Don’t shoot the messenger - just telling what I’ve heard. I didn’t make the system nor can I control what’s wrong.

I have zero trust and have always tracked my time. I've hit the 3 day goal consistently but their tracking still shows me below 60% every month every month.

60% (D-) is the new 100%, lol. You can’t make this sh*t up. Did anyone actually vet this first?

So someone who went in 3 days a week in March (during those first 4 weeks - 12 days, and the first 3 days in April) would receive 54.5% for March since the last week straddles April. Workday math ain’t mathin.

What a massive productivity hit this is. It’s all everyone has been talking about this morning in my office. The next round of layoffs needs to be the folks in HR who created this disaster.

@a9 except my senior leader specifically told us 11 days. As have other leaders in the department. So be careful the accusations you seem to be throwing around.

Apparently a comm is coming out today. I talked to someone who already had it.
Hold onto the email and grab NOW any prior expectations. Jan thru March better not show up on end of year performance unless you missed what you already knew was an expectation.

How is this shifting goal?? The goal has always been 3+ days a week and the calculation is now reflecting this. 11 days has never been the expectation, regardless of the way RTO compliance has been calculated. Leadership has been VERY strict with only saying 3+ days a week. Cmon people, I know it su-ks but why are we acting surprised?

Was there a communication that went out about this change?

This is an ethical issue. This company has a serious ethics/integrity issue and that needs to be called out.