Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

Yes, You Are At Risk…So Fight Back

Unless you are in HIH, Philippines, or Ireland, then you are at risk of being laid off. Other posts here and my own experience shows that being a top performer or being younger or paid less doesn’t make a difference. They stopped taking manager input and they are just randomly firing. Probably letting AI tell them who to cut.

So what can you do about it until this madness is over?

Quiet quit. Do only what you have to, and no going above and beyond. If they cut 3 people and hand you their work, do what you can but don’t do it all. Otherwise you are rewarding them for making things worse. If you are salary, work 40 hours. No more no less. If you are told to take on new roles on top of your current one, politely inform your manager that you are only one person, ask for a breakdown of all expectations then advise that while you will do your best, the expectations are not reasonable for one person.

Don’t go out of your way to help HIH. Do what you have to in order to keep your job, but if they are asking for extra time from you so you can basically train them to replace you, defer until you have the extra time. If HIH says something hard to understand, ask them to repeat until you do understand. If you get a kindly email that is hard to read, politely respond that you don’t understand and ask for clarification until you do. That will slow the down and increase the inefficiencies of language barriers. These people, while certainly mostly good humans, aren’t your friends. They are your replacement.

Don’t put everything into documentation. This is used to train AI and many HIH can only work off of SOPs. Let them figure out missing, but common sense, steps. Otherwise you are training your replacements. Make your documentation as obscure and high level English language as possible. AI will struggle to interpret it and will be more prone to hallucinations. HIH will get confused and make mistakes. Cigna won’t see the error of this JE/RIF/offshoring strategy unless those left behind cause things to fall apart.

Take your PTO. You earned it. It is your time and your benefit. If you have Standout points cash them in before you can’t.

If you have Cigna insurance, use as many benefits as you can as soon as you can. Get your new glasses. Snag that HSA $. Get as many preventative screenings as you can.

It won’t stop what’s coming. We can’t change that. Unionizing is not feasible and Cigna would bankrupt itself Union busting before ever allowing it.

But not helping them be successful in sending your jobs to another country, or having (error prone) AI doing your job will make a small difference and add up long term. Don’t not do your job. But don’t make it any easier on Cigna for getting rid of others or even yourself.


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Post ID: @OP+1kg8ht2zw

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@ex

No no. Don't backpedal. You told me that I had to build it from scratch. Remember, bootlicker? Or has the polish finally rotted out what was left of your brain?

Never once said I was owed a job. Nice strawman. They are free to seperate me at any time. Until that day, however, I'm going to malinger, delay, reduce output, and misuse corporate resources. Your opinions here are meaningless. Live with it or you are free to leave.

Finally, it's not my responsibility to help you comprehend the many, many things that you fail to understand. Neither you or I have that much time left.

Have a nice day.

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Post ID: @yw+1kg8ht2zw

@ey

Who cares what "you" say or don't say? Your pathetic attempt to act as if you have mass approval (with the "we" stuff again) failed just as hard as last time. I'm not influenced by peer pressure, especially of the imaginary variety.

You don't like it, go find a kleenex to blot your tears. I'll be the one laughing at you. Bootlicker. Butt buddy.

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@k7

Go ahead and leave then if you are such a sensutive little flower. You won't be missed.

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Post ID: @yt+1kg8ht2zw

I wish everyone would read and pass around a copy of You Deserve a Tech Union by Ethan Marcotte.

The only way to fight back is to fight back together. The only wins you can achieve that can't be taken away on a whim are those in writing, in a contract.

The only way to get your own contract that is even remotely in your favor is to increase your bargaining power. And the only way to do that is by joining with your coworkers and making demands together.

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Post ID: @yr+1kg8ht2zw

Remember, past strategies undertaken by cigna management since the 1980’s leads to present risk, impact and outcomes today…

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Post ID: @y8+1kg8ht2zw

New here, I’m embarrassed that I even have coworkers like you. Who TF says bootlicker and butt buddy?!

Y’all are the problem not the solution

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Post ID: @k7+1kg8ht2zw

We also don’t say Butt Buddy anymore, just a FYI. Both slurs are decades old, only old Homophobics say that

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Post ID: @ey+1kg8ht2zw

@dk

Didn't build it from scratch, but he is the CEO. Again, don't like the CEO and the direction he/she is taking the company, then move on. You're not owed a job.

If this company moves in a direction that violates your standards and/or morals, get out. I don't understand at all the "let's sabotage the company until it aligns with what I think is important" attitude.

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Post ID: @ex+1kg8ht2zw

Careful here. Especially since the best talent have been laid off and were your acting as your wall between HIH and you. HIH and management will now catch on especially since HIH is getting up to speed before more layoffs in Feb. They may see you as the bottleneck.

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Post ID: @dp+1kg8ht2zw

@dm doesnt apply anymore. they can just fire you and send your work to HIH.

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Post ID: @dn+1kg8ht2zw

For all kindred spirits, take heed of these simple tips - provided to us by our own government:

https://www.cia.gov/static/5c875f3ec660e092cf893f60b4a288df/SimpleSabotage.pdf

There's something here for almost every occasion!

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Post ID: @dm+1kg8ht2zw

@as

Yeah I will build it from scratch. Just like your butt-buddy Cordani did.

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Post ID: @dk+1kg8ht2zw

people here thinking they are badasses when they are the lamest losers. hate to tell you the best of current times was laid off or are long gone.

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Post ID: @dj+1kg8ht2zw

@as

Nope. I refuse your simplistic and poorly thought out narrative. I will stay on and do my best to thwart productivity in many ways.

So sorry you don't like it. Try not to stroke out, cheif 😉

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Post ID: @dh+1kg8ht2zw

@ae

Good thing that I'm 0% invested in Cigna's "success". Cordani, Evans and crew already have enough wealth.

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Post ID: @dg+1kg8ht2zw

@ak

You are now speaking for everyone, bootlicker? I couldn't care less what you think "we" say or don't say.

Peer pressure was a failed strategy back in elementary school.

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Post ID: @df+1kg8ht2zw

Agree with 40 hr work for 40 hr pay. Does not matter if you work at DMV or anthropic. Unless you are the owner of the shop, no reason to hustle.

Do not agree with the suggestions to slow things down. Do your job like a professional at their best. Train someone if your job requires you to. Document your job without being asked. Your pay is different than the individual next desk for a reason. There is no job security. The individual next cubicle is going to night school to get your job.

English is spoken all over, but the accent and proficiency may not meet your standard. Do not refuse to communicate willingly. Also, please ask for help if you need it after reasonable effort. Travel somewhere distant and you will know how difficult language can be. Will you not travel for work for the right pay? Thankfully younger generation comes to rescue.

There is a reason why english is spoken all over, not french. In few decades we may all have to learn mandarin. But wait, there is a translation app we can use. Do you really want the app to hallucinate while trying to p-e with dignity and surrounded by men in masks?

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Post ID: @d0+1kg8ht2zw

This is a good post OP. Idk what happened in the comments, everyone’s brain is rotted but I found some calm in your advice.

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Post ID: @cy+1kg8ht2zw

@ar Kitties are so cute.

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Post ID: @b0+1kg8ht2zw

I think we have reached peak silliness.

If you don't like the direction that the company is going, quit. Start your own business so you can be the boss and build something that becomes a fortune 500 company.

If that's not in your skillset, then accept that you work for someone else, do your job, and stop acting like a spoiled child.

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Post ID: @as+1kg8ht2zw

What…the…h@#$…..is going on in this thread lol!!!

It’s wild in here

Out of pocket

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Post ID: @ar+1kg8ht2zw

I can look up stuff on this post and see that 1080 people so far has read this post and you are the only one that talks that way. Soooooooo

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Post ID: @ap+1kg8ht2zw

yall are just making stuff up at this point. ppl dont forget to look up stuff on your own.

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Post ID: @an+1kg8ht2zw

Historical does not equate to current. Currently only old racists say it.

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Post ID: @am+1kg8ht2zw

I see you also use the word “bro” that no one likes, so I agree with the last guy. You might be young and don’t know this, but we don’t say bootlicker anymore.

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Post ID: @ak+1kg8ht2zw

@ag uh no, it has historical anti-racist origins.

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Post ID: @aj+1kg8ht2zw

Get out of healthcare insurance services, telekom, banking, investment companies, and computer/data companies. 90% of the posts on here are related to lost jobs in these industries and probably most going away sooner than. Don't you see? Ask some toll takers or your receptionists if you can find them. Find something else where you can use your hands where foreign workers can't take your work away from India or the Philippines

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Post ID: @ah+1kg8ht2zw

Only old racists say bootlicker, it’s not a good look and you should evolve instead of defending with everyone says it. That’s an excuse a child would say.

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Post ID: @ag+1kg8ht2zw

@aa This is a self-defeating strategy, unless your goal is just to cause Cigna to fail faster, which will lead to more layoffs.

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Post ID: @ae+1kg8ht2zw

@ab lol who. Never heard that word until I read it here..

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Post ID: @ac+1kg8ht2zw

everyone uses that word

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Post ID: @ab+1kg8ht2zw

You can tell this thread is filled with old timers who have failed to evolve by the use of the word “bootlicker”.

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Post ID: @aa+1kg8ht2zw

@a4

What color is the sky in your world, bootlicker?

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Post ID: @a9+1kg8ht2zw

This post is a few years too late OP. Maybe that was what you could do when you had the high caliber folks on your team doing the rest of your work but now you can not do that anymore.

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Post ID: @a8+1kg8ht2zw

@OP this post reads as someone nervous because they threw their top tier performers under the bus because they followed this method and decided to not support them or the rest of the team.

Now they know they are next!

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Post ID: @a7+1kg8ht2zw

Gotta love the bootlicer who thinks going above and beyond will get them a promotion. Lol Bro, our team just lost our 4 best people. We are all sc--wed without them. Yeah. This place do not care about us no matter how good we do. Good luck getting burned bro

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Post ID: @a6+1kg8ht2zw

@a4 Unsure this will work. Many people that did not work with HIH were affected this round but it seems like it was folks that were the top tier of performers.

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Post ID: @a5+1kg8ht2zw

No, I’m good. While you are there looking average at best and a prime candidate for next round, it will make me look better. Thank you

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Post ID: @a4+1kg8ht2zw

This 100%. @a2 if you call getting laid off winning, good for you. And none of the above is whining. Fight the good fight Saboteur!!!

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