Which caused voluntary attrition. Don’t get me wrong, they did lay some employees off but not on the same scale as meta, Amazon, Microsoft, etc.
What does the future hold for T? Do you all think they will start more structured layoffs in the years to come?
@dd that’s because stink is cooking the books before his exit
@eb You are blessed that you are out. You may have found some difficult time to find another job, but most of the other places other than these so called Faang Google, Amazon, Meta, Microsoft , life is very comfortable, you enjoy your work and life.
AT&T is firing people and all remaining people are getting overloaded, most of them are not good performers. So, you can imagine life for those good people who would be left there and stuck in these mess.
Been RVing since I got laid off. Best times of my life. Thank you ATT for releasing me from the shithole.
OP, At&T has laid off more people in the last 8 years than all of Faang combined has. This information is publicly available.
This type of things will happen if we will have more Indians in top management. Because they have seen and faced problems reaching to office, daily waisting 1-2 hours in traffic, and still they think that is good. Same think they are trying to enforce in US.
@dd They don’t have intentions to pay severance, that is the reason they invented cheap employee discrimination less than 3 hour presence report cobc termination. If its fulltime RTO then how any one else less than 8 hours is not faulty like less than 3 hour. But they can’t do it. If they will then it will treated as intended layoff and DOL will mark it. And anyways they are cheating to save these severance packages so they don’t want to do layoff.
They can afford to pay severance slowly not in big numbers all at once.
“There is no credible evidence, generally speaking, that RTO improves much of anything.”
Network metrics prove this statement wrong. The evidence was clear there was widespread abuse when employees were at home.
@bv
Ameritech ...wow..Wasn't that maybe 1998 or 1999. That would have been when they offered a 5+5 and a year's severance. The last best offer.
All the layoffs were not performance based. I had good reviews but made the highest salary and was 61 and Ameritech region. That was my target
@be
No question that WFH allowed American workers to enjoy a higher quality of life than being tied to a corporate office location. There is no credible evidence, generally speaking, that RTO improves much of anything. I agree. I also think that workers now understand that quality of life overall impacts who you want to work for...That means, workers now have to prioritize what's more important.
Regarding the layoff announcements, I disagree with the notion that they're not cutting thousands AND reporting the numbers. My team was affected in 2018. That year, the company announced and it was reported that 10,000 workers were cut. There is a Warn tracker device that shows you where the layoffs occurred.
“forced relocation”
Choice not force.
@b9 OP here. @b9, do me a favor and do a quick google search for AT&T layoffs, besides this website layoff.com you will only find a few articles about approximately 100 layoffs in Florida, and not much more. The point is - this evil corp knows how to do small, strategic layoffs that don’t get media coverage, and go completely under the radar. RTO attrition definitely helped them the last few years, though. For example 60% of my team mates left voluntarily and found better jobs with flexibility to their work schedules. Most were high potential women
@ba
Scaling down the headcount has occurred because of many reasons. 238,000 employees resulted when SBC bought the old att. Now we're at 50% of that number.
Not sure there's an argument for getting rid of the older demographic specifically, Babyboomers. A majority have already exited the business gladly. These are the people who will receive pensions, possibly healthy 401ks, and reasonable Social Security.
It's the 40-50 age group who still have many years to work that are caught in this quagmire. They're not exactly old, however.
@ba
Nail on the head @ba, nail on the mother yuckers head!
Speaking of heads, I’d like to pi$$ on the ones that are discriminating by age and race and forcing 5 day RTO for the targeted demographic. When rules are applied disproportionately to different demographics, the #fcc and #doj should get involved and interview the clowns while letting #doge handle data forensics.
@aj Of course it is cheaper to pay severance, but that fails to target the demographic they are discriminating against. Skewing the headcount reduction heavily in favor of older employees is the goal, and this is their strategy for doing so without running afoul of federal law. That is why everything discussed here is happening.
@OP
This is a ridiculous post. Since 2017 ATT has surplussed , laid off, reduced headcount by 140,000 employees. Additionally, they are required by law to file notification via Warn of the lay offs. They've not hidden those numbers; they've been well publicized. If in fact, some employees left the business because they were mandated to return to the office, those figures are undoubtedly minuscule compared to retirement attrition. You've either not been around long or you just don't know the facts.
Further, ATT has always had a performance based evaluation process in place, whether you're aware of it or not.
Every year your leadership ranks their employees and it is not subjective. Like you hinted, it's performance based.
There you go! Keep talking about RTO to your boss.
Paying the dividend though.
@b0 Not being in office doesn’t mean not doing work. Not sure what is relevance of this question here.
@aj They are so disgusting that they even want to save that money. Worst company worst management.!!
If you're not in the office, what are you really doing?
99 employees laid off in one state, then another 99 the following week in a different state all quietly slipping under the radar
@ae if the Chief Psychotics do read the Layoff, perhaps they would entertain doing something about the 4-layer Useless VP Wall. Oh that’s right, Friends and Family Plan, never mind. Seeya L2’s…….
T has avoided bad press since cuts have been minuscule compared to other companies like Amazon, Microsoft and UPS. T is now able to surplus in much larger numbers with no issues given industry trends.
“ They can’t follow Amazon, Microsoft. They will need to pay money. To save money they find some other tricks.”
News flash: Paying severance is cheaper than keeping employees on payroll because it’s a one-time cost that eliminates ongoing salary, benefits, and overhead expenses.
They can’t follow Amazon, Microsoft. They will need to pay money. To save money they find some other tricks. Evidences are fabricated to save them in future.
AT&T would have a lot less people working against changes if they fu---d off with RTO.
Many of us agree with performance based layoffs and a more performance based culture, RTO and forced relocation turned a majority of the employees against upper management and that isn’t going to change.
We’re all in on malicious compliance until management changes course.
AT&T has long operated as a reactive organization, often mirroring the decisions of other Fortune 100 companies rather than setting the pace. With widespread layoffs now rippling across the industry, it’s reasonable to anticipate similar workforce reductions at AT&T—likely beginning in December and continuing into Q1.
But the deeper issue isn’t just timing. It’s structural.
The company is burdened by an inefficient workforce model: too many union employees, and an excessive number of managers whose primary function is to oversee them. This imbalance stifles agility and inflates operational costs.
Compounding the problem is a layer of tenured leadership—individuals who, by all metrics, should be retired or preparing to exit. Instead, many are actively resisting progress to prolong their careers. They equate headcount with influence, and in doing so, protect their silos at the expense of innovation, efficiency, and long-term viability.
Let’s be clear: leadership reads The Layoff page. And they should know that a significant portion of their own ranks is working against the company’s future. This internal resistance isn’t passive—it’s strategic sabotage. Protecting “kingdoms” over customers, careers over competitiveness.
If AT&T wants to evolve, it must confront not just external pressures, but the internal power dynamics that quietly undermine every attempt at transformation.
@aa 🖕
AT&T will find some unethical way like presence report 3 hrs etc, so they not need to pay anything to anyone.
Amazon, Meta anyone firing is paying and taking care of employees for some extended period. AT&T do fraud with employees, taking full work and then putting them under cobc to blame employees and not pay them anything.They hired HRBPs, legal team and create evidence like video recordings etc to prove themselves right.