1) If you say NO. Will submit before March 4.
They will hold you until 6mos just like what they did to the CSO folks. Basically, they do nothing getting paid. Wait until you get released so you can get the severance and can file unemployment to the state as you are marked being surplussed.
If you accepted a new job in between 6mos. That is consider a resignation.
2) if you say YES and no plan to drive on the new location - you will get terminated. State unemployment will not be an option.
If you choose to move and then don't move, you should still file for unemployment when they terminate you. The state decides if you qualify, not AT&T, and the company has to pay most of the bill for it. Make AT&T fight the claim, because even if it gets denied it costs AT&T money.
@fq
Some people were given until 6/30/2026,
others 12/31/2026 and still others 6/30/2027 So depending upon your job function you were given 6,12, or 18 months, If you have 18 be thankful.
@cf wrong, if you say yes you have until 6/30/2027 to report to the new location
Employees who live in NJ are protected by law.
ATT cannot lay you off without paying severance so long as 50 or more employees were let go within the past 90 days.
This means they can only perform 3 of these per use and can only she’d 150 employees without triggering the severance and at by law,
So in other words, anyone who works in NJ should tell the company they will move. Stay as long as they can, and sue them if they don’t provide severance.
@OP what org and what are your options as to location? Dallas, ATL,…?
What are the OPTIONS if you are qualified to get a 6 months severance?
@an The Severence is Guarenteed but the 6 Months are not. We are only guarenteed until the march date to sign they can give notice at that time after. So it depends upon how much severence you are up for If you only have a month or two you might choose the 6 month guarentee even if being fired at the end.
“As far as relocation, if they valued you as an employee they would have paid for you to relocate, if they didn't then they want you gone .”
Relocation funding is only provided when an employee is considered to have special or unique skills.
Does the letter actually say you can work for those 6 Months if you choose not to relocate.. NO It says you have 6 months to report to the new location if yuou choose yes and for those who chose no you will be notified within 14 days of your end date . The end date is not specified. They can give you notice on March 5th and you are gone two weeks later. As far as relocation, if they valued you as an employee they would have paid for you to relocate, if they didn't then they want you gone . Don't relocate unless it waws a move you were contemplating anyway. People have been surplused after relocating and they have been surplused sooner then they said they would when choosing no.
The options are
1) Choose Yes and move
2) Say no, you will get severence but you are not guarenteed employment past mid march .
3) Choose Yes, Guarentee yourself 6 months of work , take vacation saying you are trying to get setteled ( take it all even if not earned) then leave . This at least gives you some additional benefit coverage for the month of august. Sc--w the severence. Burn the bridge, if you are not moving you will never work for them again anyway.
It all depends on your situation, depending upon your years of service the Severence may be worth it even if you are terminated early.
I love how we got a letter, but it’s only saying that we’ll be hearing more soon? So why send it? The company is so full of incompetence and recklessness. They really don’t give a F about any of us. Just do it and be done with it you tools
Check with your local unemployment office to get clarity on the rules that apply in your state.
So if you move to TX at your own expense then gets laid off say 6 months and DOES NOT meet base period....you've just been basically sc--wed. You work extra months, pay for moving expenses, no severance and unqualified for unemployment benefits.
P.S. Looks like you can file with another state, and/or combine with TX unemployment insurance under certain circumstances:
"Benefit Options for Wages in More than One State
If you worked in more than one state during your base period as defined in Eligibility & Benefit Amounts above:
You can apply for benefits in any state where you have base period wages. The state you choose will become your paying state. See Potential Benefit Amounts and Contact Information by State below.
You may either:
Ask the paying state to combine all of your wages in a single unemployment benefits claim. If you combine wages, you can only receive benefits from one state. If you earned enough wages in your paying state to qualify for the maximum benefit amount, then the paying state will not combine wages from other states on your claim.
Use only the wages earned in the paying state. Then based upon the law and base period provisions of the other states where you have wages, you may be able to use those other state wages to apply for benefits in the future.
The paying state will process your unemployment benefits application according to the rules of that state. The paying state asks the other state(s) to transfer your wage records. The paying state can then determine if you earned enough wages after combining wages from other states to qualify for benefits under that state’s laws.
To be eligible for benefits, you must register and search for work in the state you live in and comply with ALL of its requirements. TWC will verify that you registered in the state you live in. Find your state’s job bank here"
https://www.twc.texas.gov/programs/unemployment-benefits/eligibility-benefit-amounts
Good question.
Here's what the TX Workforce Commission site says about it:
"Base Period
Your base period is the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before the effective date of your initial claim. We do not use the quarter in which you file or the quarter before that; we use the one-year period before those two quarters. The effective date is the Sunday of the week in which you apply. The chart below can help you determine your base period. If you do not have enough wages from employment in the base period, TWC cannot pay you benefits.
To have a payable claim, you must meet all of the following requirements:
You have wages in more than one of the four base period calendar quarters.
Your total base period wages are at least 37 times your weekly benefit amount.
If you qualified for benefits on a prior claim, you must have earned six times your new weekly benefit amount since that time."
Scroll down for weekly benefit amounts, etc.
https://www.twc.texas.gov/programs/unemployment-benefits/eligibility-benefit-amounts
Also keep in mind that TX might not pay as much in unemployment insurance as a lot of other states do. You canplug in the numbers here at the TX Unemployment Benefits Estimator to get a rough idea of how much to expect:
https://apps.twc.texas.gov/UBS/benefitsEstimator.do
What if you get laid off a few months after moving to the new location? Will you be eligible for unemployment benefits based on new location (e.g. Texas) or is there a required minimum Texas employment period?
@ac Veryr few in Meriden got the letter......MRAN, C&E were told they would but have not as of yet
If you then don’t move it means no severance, no unemployment,
Not true as far as unemployment. Saying no in some states and getting severance will delay unemployment benefits. Saying yes and then not moving will end up in you being fired for not moving and that's reason for unemployment. Your signing your intent is not a contract of any future employment on either side.
In this current financial climate, NEVER uproot yourself and your family for a job at a company which has already demonstrated that they have no respect for you, either as a worker or as an individual human being.
There is no guarantee that they won't pull the rug out from under you, after you've chosen to go to all of the expense, hassle, inconvenience, uncertainty, and stress of moving to suit THEM. The only time you should move is when you're doing so to suit YOURSELF!
Take the money.
Take it, and be grateful you're also getting 6 months of pay to get your ducks in a row to line up new streams (yes, that's plural) of "side" income, so even if at the end of that 6 months, you still haven't landed a full time job, you at least will be on solid footing to provide your basic expenses for your household, via your "side streams" of income. Those can be anything from contract work, to temp. assignments, to freelancing, to gig work...or a combination of all.
Be smart.
When an a--hole who is mistreating you is also offering you money to get out of their midst, take it as a blessing that not only are you being given the opportunity to not only be delivered from (evil) having to deal with them anymore, but that they're paying you a nice sume of EXTRA, FREE $$$ ON TOP of your usual salary too!
You might not ever get such a sweet windfall/opportunity for positive change ever again in your life.
Take it, and be wise with how you use it...turn it into being the foundation/jump-off point/catalyst for initiating a new way of living, which is BETTTER for yourself and your future.
"I don’t believe because you may have stated to your employer earlier that you “would” move or “intended” to move would really be a factor."
Your belief is incorrect.
If you say yes, and don’t go, you will be terminated. Saying yes means you agree to the new terms. If you then don’t move it means no severance, no unemployment, and you were fired with cause on your record. Don’t be d-mb and do this. Just take the 6 months and then the severance.
Say yes, wait 6 months, nothing happens, future book tennis and golf at work hours.
@a9 - meriden CT folks. Either Bedminster NJ and Framingham MA
@OP which org is this letter for? What location options do you have to move to?
Cadillac package. Sounds good.
“ if you say YES and no plan to drive on the new location - you will get terminated. State unemployment will not be an option.”
I believe this is incorrect. The fact remains that your employer moved your job location across the country and you couldn’t / wouldn’t relocate to keep it.
I don’t believe because you may have stated to your employer earlier that you “would” move or “intended” to move would really be a factor.