Does TIAA favor internal transfers versus external applicants? Looking to do a lateral move, I don't see any openings for the position I want, but figured I'd want to network with the manager to let them know I'm interested. Has anyone transferred internally that can provide any recommendation/tips on what they did? Worried that if I apply and don't get the role, then my boss would know that I'm looking to transition out of my current role.
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@qb 2 weeks notice usually sufficient. Depends where you are though. Some ask for 4 or 6 weeks.
But evidently you don’t know what backfilling a role means. Typically your current manager can’t post your role until well after you vacated it which could be anywhere from 1 to 4 months. So that doesn’t matter. But you may be called to help the new person if to take on an internal role. Pending how well you documented and recorded your job functions.
So the work you do and how quickly you can train current teammates before leaving may matter more. Also if you are NCC it’ll be more like several weeks notice especially if under 18 months.
@qb It depends...usually 2 weeks to 30 days..
@a4 Totally agree with you...
@a1 Your comments are not true for NCC...I've been with the company 28 years and have changed jobs/departments/areas and always had support...you clearly do not have a good relationship with management...
Was there a ‘waiting’ period once you got an offer for the other team?
Just wondering how the transition would be, if you would have to put a “2 weeks notice” for your current team or if the transition is much longer until they can backfill the position.
I did not let my manager know until I was in the offer phase. I have had issues with past roles when I let my leadership know I was applying to other internal positions. I think good leadership supports you and bad leadership will make life challenging. I have even had painful transitions internally due to manager/leadership treating me like I was “abandoning” them. You should always look out for your best interest.
@f6 yes I did. I’ve changed roles here several times. Never any awkwardness.
Internal moves are better due to many points stated here and other posts on this site as well as intranet articles including the current one. Better to retain talent then let them walk out the door to another company.
The times I got rejected, I don’t think my manager ever knew I applied. I’ve straight up asked some managers after I applied/interviewed or if they were asked. Managers don’t find out you applied anywhere unless if they need to and are told by you, HR or the hiring manager.
Nothing to worry about and as I and others said before if you are worried about your manager or team finding out you applied somewhere else you want to be and better your career you are on the wrong team and/or under a really bad manager and should leave the toxicity anyway (internally or externally).
Life is too damn short to be worried about applying to other internal roles that you want to pursue or better your career potential. Just apply. The worst the hiring manager could do is say no.
Don’t believe others saying your manager will reprimand you for applying to a role you wanted internally. Most want to help you succeed as it looks good for them and allows their team to grow with new people.
I thought TIAA was in a hiring freeze?
Appreciate the info- did yoi get the role? I assume TIAA would favor internal applicants, but I also think it be awkward if someone internally applies but gets rejected because then their current manager would know they want out.
@f1 There’s a checkbox/radio button on the application when applying internally.
It depends how long you’ve been on that team or what area. NCC typically minimum 18 months, most others 12 months. Also depends if you got relocation benefits or are on some sort of probation.
But if you’ve been on the team over that time you shouldn’t have to tell your manager unless if you get an interview (after the initial phone screen. That is courtesy to them as well as in case the hiring manager reaches out to for insight on you or your performance.
I’ve only had to ask my manager to apply to a role internally once because I was on the team 9 months and the application asked if I’ve been in my current role at least 12 months. Alternatively I only told my manager I got an interview with the hiring manager once because it was on a team we worked with often.
Does anyone know if you're required to let your manager know when you apply? Or only when you interview/ get a job offer?
@dn They can pay an internal candidate less and they has less risk because they are a known commodity
I’ve heard lately for many roles being posted that hiring managers are forced to select an internal applicant so it’s a good time for internal mobility if you have relevant experience.
@ae you'll keep your bonus and if you got a (bonis) increase, it will most likely be adjusted as well so long the year end hasn't past
Adding on to this… anyone know what happens to your bonus when switching teams? Do you lose it or will it be adjusted?
@a1 How about if they are transferring down to Frisco ? I heard they need all the bodies they can get down there.
@a1 what in the actual F are you talking about?!? People change roles internally all the time most managers don’t care only bad managers will be angry or retaliate and that signifies a toxic work environment that the associate should get out of ASAP. In fact it sounds like you were a terrible manager or lead saying that you’ve seen that in your tenure … you know what they say… “every accusation is a confession”
Anyway @OP … don’t worry about that first disgruntled poster or others like them. I’ve applied to a bunch of roles here and changed teams around 10 times in my 20+ years here and never had a manager find out I applied had interviews etc, nor were they upset with me when I accepted other roles and transitioned to those teams. I would tell my manager I when I got an actual interview in case the hiring manager wanted to reach out for information.
10 times out of 11 you will be perfectly fine applying to roles and moving laterally internally. That one time - may be what the first poster is talking about. But that is not the norm that is again a bad manager trying to hold you back which is toxic and technically a form of abuse if you encounter that tell HR.
I mean like there was an intranet article this week about someone doing just that using our AI product to help setup their Workday career profile and find a new role here and how the transition went with managerial support from old and new team.
Lastly there was another post here just on this topic so check there for info too here:
https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1k51z8xmh
Super dangerous if our manager finds it out (and he/she will find out). Its a signal u r done with ur current team/mgr and ready to move in. Itll impact ur promo and training prospects- ur are basically done. Unless the target team mgr REALLY wants u this will go nowhere and its a lose lose kind of set up from that point… i ve been leading teqms for 25!years now and aleays plays this eay