For those who survive the cuts, it feels insane to uproot your whole family for a job that might disappear a year later. I know some won’t have much of a choice, but the costs, both financial and personal, are huge, and the payoff in the long run seems unlikely.
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@a4 it took more than 10 additional years to close the Toronto offices after the big St. Clair move in 2005 because certain groups objected. They kept the Wynford office open until 2014/2015 and Duncan Mill until 2017/2018.
And they tried to play games like “working notice in lieu of severance” in the ESC relocation in 2010. It didn’t work because many banded together and sought legal counsel. This company has long discouraged sharing info between employees like salary or ranking, but in this we should collaborate.
Be cautious when answering any survey or signing anything, always seek legal advice. Imperial Oil and ExxonMobil most certainly did.
I choose to depart from the company and collect my severance
The individuals remaining will deal with INSANE work loads. Yes the pay is okay; however, you will be working like a slave
Not worth it for me, specially when I have been taking ownership in building my skills and capabilities that makes me very marketable
Reality is to never trust a company
They want you to say you won't move. Less people to deal with and severance to pay.
What will be left of the hollow shell of a company once known as ESSO?!
EMTEC roles are moving to Houston and expat assignments withdrawn, technical careers for engineers will be limited to local site support only.
Global Projects are moving non-Canadian projects to Exxon, Canadians can only get local Canadian smaller projects.
And not to mention all of the mid-level management and above-site roles like Supply, Trading etc, Even if you did survive the purge, what future career outlook is there? We were rolling in cash and they still did this, so Exxon must see a bleak economic future for Canada.
@OP dress code in Scona about to get bougie
And work at an old asbestos laden building with barely any windows because it is blast proofed. Oh, the building has a basement.
The question is, do you really want to move to Edmonton for a job…. in a bunker?.. in a basement?
While you inhale the sweet smells of a chemical complex?
During the Calgary relocation in 2005/2006, many "favored" employees were given a sweetheart deal, like a domestic assignment on an unaccompanied status. They would get airfare reimbursed to travel from Calgary to Toronto and back every two weeks. The company covered apartment rental and other costs as well. I won't be surprised if a similar program is made available if regretted attrition is higher than anticipated. It is never a level playing field. This is why we find ourselves in this situation.
With how they are crushing certain groups I’d rather eat glass than ‘survive’ and relocate with this company.
High performers should be able to find jobs so company will be left with the mediocre who desperately need this job but will be forced to babysit Houston and BTC’ers who DGAF or are just plain incompetent
I wouldn't take the chance uprooting my family from Calgary to Edmonton, only to be laid off in a few years.
It all depends on whether an individual can find another "comparable" job or not, and taking into account into spouse's job as well altogether.
All this talk about family and financial impact is true and real, but you only talk about it if you have choices and how much you are willing to give up financially (e.g. accepting a lower paying job).
If you have the skill and confidence to find something comparable, good for you and make your own future, otherwise, you are talking about a pretty well-paid job plus accumulating pensions for another couple of years here.
Let's face the truth and acknowledge that "Talk is cheap" and "money talk"
If you listen to the Darren Woods interview that they put up for this, he mentions there's further streamlining that will happen...merging Upstream and Product Solutions into Global Operations. There will be some layoffs then as well. I think most people dont want to move but if you look at the job market right now its not good so people may not have a choice
If you move to Edmonton and fail the PIP within a year…. You pay the company back for the relocation
Sounds like a good plan!
what if they again lay you off in 3 years? is there any guarantee ?
Depending on what stage in life you are at.......
No chance I want to stay with the after picture this is creating. I feel for the people that will remain. This is a recipe for disaster.
Can someone create a survey monkey and post it here for Imperial employees to vote?
People did it when they closed the Ontario offices and moved them to Calgary. That’s across the country. I don’t see why they wouldn’t within the same province.
Yeah duh, if that makes you resign then Johnny doesn’t need to pay you severance.