Thread regarding Cigna layoffs

Avoiding Competitors to keep severance?

I have been applying everywhere, but specifically avoiding places like Optum, UHG etc, where I’m pretty sure I would get hired. I want to keep saving my severance. Has anyone else taken this approach or am I remembering the severance package terms incorrectly?


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Post ID: @OP+1ktd2ba2g

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@OP If you are in California, you're safe. CA has very strict laws against employers doing this as it pushed folks into poverty during the last financial crisis.

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Post ID: @zb+1ktd2ba2g

@OP They can kiss my a-s. If it comes up tell them it's a business decision just like the business decision they made to lay you off.

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Post ID: @za+1ktd2ba2g

Non-compete agreements were basically made illegal and you don’t have to tell them anything.

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Post ID: @vv+1ktd2ba2g

I believe you only have a non-compete agreement if you received stock as part of your compensation. So that’s an issue for band 5+ and some band 4s.

If you haven’t received any stock awards you’re probably OK. Although I would go over everything you signed as part of your severance before assuming so.

My opinion is that Cigna has laid off so many people over the last couple years that they’re not going to bother chasing people down, except for a few rare exceptions.

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Post ID: @tx+1ktd2ba2g

lol I've got good news. I'm pretty positive you're remembering this incorrectly and, even if you aren't, there's zero way in he-l they'd catch you. Cigna is barely competitive enough to find their own a-s with a flashlight and a map - they aren't retroactively magically tracking your SSN to make sure you aren't working for a competitor. Would never ever hold up in court. You'd have to be a high level exec doing the exact same job elsewhere for this to even be a slight possibility. You don't sound like exec material if you even need to ask this. Just apply to wherever you think you can get a job. Good luck out there, bro.

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Post ID: @nt+1ktd2ba2g

So true! Don’t ever overestimate yourself. If you’re so hot, why they let you go? If you didn’t get a gold parachute, you don’t need to worry about the non-compete clauses even you signed before as they company already voided it

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Post ID: @dt+1ktd2ba2g

Oh dear, OP thinks they will hired like they are hot cake. Who’s gonna tell them ?

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Post ID: @dk+1ktd2ba2g

The hiring process can take a while. Apply now and see if you can delay start date if necessary or have new place match severance with a hiring bonus.

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Post ID: @ct+1ktd2ba2g

Non compete clauses for Bands 4 and lower are extremely rare.

Non compete clauses never hold up legally when the employer dismisses the employee.

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Post ID: @az+1ktd2ba2g

I believe the non-compete only comes in if you do 'the same' job at a competitor.

If for example, you are a contractor and you know all of cignas negotiated rates in a market and then you become a contractor in the same market for a competitor.

But don't take advice from anonymous strangers online. I would talk to a lawyer.

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Post ID: @ab+1ktd2ba2g

You should see a lawyer. If you get an offer letter before they lay you off, you can't possibly do any non-compete, and they still legally owe you severance. If you haven't been there a decade, maybe don't hold out for the severance. A good position that you want will be hard to come by? Strike while the iron is hot?

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Post ID: @a9+1ktd2ba2g

I did not see a non-compete clause in my letter (Minnesota). Some states restrict non-compete beyond 6 months unless you brought trade secrets or other proprietary info.

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