Not sure if this is company wide or just certain departments, but it looks like they’re going to start cracking down on hours in office for salaried employees. Last month a girl on a neighboring team was placed on “administrative leave” as she was being investigated for hours spent in office. Then earlier today, a guy on my team received an email titled “Corporate Investigation - RTO”, but he was able to come back to his desk and continue his day. He said he’ll talk to me off campus about the meeting.
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Just love the leaders - they want us chained to the desk on zoom calls 4 days a week but when on PTO they expect you to login to take care of work stuff. Well had you not fired the other folks you would have someone as a back-up to do the work for you.
@14r you’re correct, according to him (and he’s very upfront on everything), talk about hours in office was never mentioned, it was all about being in office 4 days a week.
So this is a message to all employees, keep a paper trail, if you do not use CAMs, then save your receipts from the cafeteria or the employee store, because if you know their reporting is off and you have no way to prove it, they’re going to go by the badge reports and you’ll be SOL.
@12r so 4 days but no mention of number of hours in office is my guess
@11j I’m OP for this post. Yes, they tried saying he wasn’t meeting his 4 days a week, so he told them to check his CAMs as he uses it everyday in the cafe for lunch. He met with them again on Monday and they “apologized” for any misunderstanding and dropped the investigation.
@xe every person who down voted this post, is precisely the problem. All these lazy folks are the worst to happen to any organization. USAA should make minimum 7 hours in office, though making people sit 8 hours is still okay, since that's what is called a full day in office. Also, fire every person working remote if they are not willing to come to one of the local offices. I have this person who has a JAR with a medical condition that she cannot be in office, but she can go and pick kids, go for team events or social hours, also take few hours off, and here I am in the office with no such benefits. I feel its completely unfair for those who sit or come in office and do not make high dollars as opposed to other. sorry if this is hurting your sentiments, but I dont care.
@OP any updates from your team mate?
I always assumed they'd talk to the employee's manager first about the badge in / badge out so employee would get a warning, then fired. That's what I'm banking on in any case!!!
@qt why don't you just resign rather than being entitled? I mean if you can't be in the office, why should you even accept the income that comes with it. GTFOU.
@qt same outcome: less employees
Some companies spend money on Ai and innovation, meanwhile usaa invests on RTO adherence! 🤣 id--ts
Their write-off scheme worked to make the bank look profitable for 2025. They know they won't have the backlog to cook the books a second time, so heads are rolling. Don't think this is just for 'serious offenders'. USAA management is extremely lazy, so if they can find an easy way to get rid of you (whether it's RTO or otherwise) they are going to take it. Guess they'll need to hire more corporate investigators... Lol
USAA su-ks and it's only getting worse with the clowns in charge.
So has the time, effort and funds that should have gone towards fixing the Drive Safe app been diverted to enforcing RTO? What a joke of a company.
@ac Our leadership warned us towards the end of last year that actual badge in and outs reporting was in the work and told us to make sure we were in the office the majority of the day. I can’t imagine people didn’t think this was coming in general.
If the metric is 30hrs per week they're gonna have to lay off half the company LMAO good luck with that HR
@c7 what’s odd is the company sponsored van pool doesn’t even keep you in office for the full day, so I’d be curious how they’d enforce that I8
@eb once you step foot on campus, USAA knows everything you do every second you’re inside, you can’t walk 5 steps without a camera watching you. USAA loves reports, they have reports on top of reports. Wayne also hired new executives to exclusively monitor RTO.
@eb the expectation is to have arrangements…ie after school care like everyone did before the pandemic.
@cb good luck with that.
I bet money that Microsoft Teams will be the remote work equivalent of RTO adherence reporting. They are coming for everyone!
I’ve literally seen people badge and push the turnstile through and walk off. People have no shame. If you’re doing stuff like that you should be fired
My fav are the dudes in Phoenix during summer break drop their kids off at their sport drive into the office clock in and turn right back around in an hour at pickup time and leave for the day. Work smarter not harder LFG
I propose we resurrect the ancient timecard clock-in/out system, so there’s absolutely no shadow of a doubt that you’re physically in the office—your presence, immortalized by a punch card. Plus, think of Graps: the man lives for nostalgia, and this will give him the blast from the past.
How are they determining you’re not in office enough? I was told when hired and within the year that it was ok for me to leave early to pick up my child from school.. I wonder if it’s time to start looking for other employment to not risk firing.
Things keep getting stricter and stricter because people won’t just do what they are being asked to do. I know it su-ks but we wouldn’t be at this point where they are choking us out. They will either fire you or force you to quit at the rate this is going.
@dy I have been to office 4 days a week but no way I'm going to be 8 hours a day in the office, enough is enough
@cb its unbelievable that this has been the policy for the last few years and people are still not adhering. You should have left or been let go a long time ago.
This is definitely a deal breaker for me. I'd rather go somewhere than stay at the office 30 hours a week.
Its partiality . You give work from home for some pajama guys and girls, others have to show up in suits in office ?? . 300 k salary just show up your ugly face in zoom for 10 minutes discussing on sports and vacations
Yes I confirm it’s not fake news. It’s something we are looking. You need be at work atleast 30 hours per week.
It’s all apart of BCG’s (Boston consulting group) - the new McKinsey- “how we work” project. It’s the same ole restructuring and silent layoffs repackaged in a new way to bill us $25M/year
Corporate investigations is association wide so I imagine this will be coming to everyone at some point. I’m sure there is a lot to go through and lots of folks not following the ask to be in office 4 days a week for full days. I’m sure they’ll only crack down on the major violators.
I’m in bank and my manager/director told us in our team meeting yesterday that time in office is being looked at by not only bank leadership and HR, but by 3rd party consultants who are reviewing job titles, roles and responsibilities aka “how we work” with the time in office.
OP what department are you in? Are you a manager?
They are for sure firing folks for this in the Bank. Mostly people that just badge in and out or stay just a couple hours and go home. Examples would include walking in at 9 am and leaving at 9:05 or walking in at 8 am and then leaving at 11:30 during “lunch” but never coming back. If you’re doing this they will eventually talk to you or just fire you if you do this all the time/frequently and it’s just very obvious you are abusing things. It’s cheaper to fire you than to pay you severance.
What I’d like to know is why doesn’t their boss already know/see this and how are they being held accountable for not coaching to it.