If Serbia's getting hit majorly, then none of us are safe. No shade to Serbians, but they're much cheaper and much easier to keep on. If they're down to cutting even the lower-cost folks, what's going to happen to us in the US? Nothing good that I can think of, that's for sure.
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@tj im in sales and my base is about 2k
last year while we still has incentives, I averaged at about 3.5k
@tj In percent very low ofc.
How is this possible, better question how would it be not?
NCR (both) are still a technology companies, (sometimes) seeking for (advanced) tech roles. In Serbia mostly not, but sometimes they hire highly educated tech people. With highly educate I mean technically highly educated people with real tech experience.
You do have devops engineers, cloud engineers, devsecops, network, security engineers, developers, automation engineers, etc. Not quite many of them comparing to the whole number of Serbian employees but they are still here.
Why do they earn much more then average NCR employee? Mostly because you cannot hire anyone who can really do something in related fields for less income ...
Do not mix those people with average Serbian NCR workforce which is mostly Call-1, FSC, HD, Account Management, various analysts, Logistics and similar. Those people come from various sides, high school, completely tech unrelated university majors ( philosophy, politics, psychology, andragogy, geography, ... ) They work on roles that can be addressed after initial 5-10 business days of training ( and some experience after ) ...
During later years NCR significantly lowered acceptance criteria, and as there were the days when on many territories in US they have accepted CEs with only clean driving license, clear dr-g test and A+ cert or will to get one, here was/is similar, some language skill and candidate to be sure on which flour to exit the elevator ...
@rk Can you let everyoe know how many people make those salaires over 3 K and over 5 and 6 K and over 10 K in Serbia? WHat positions for instnace? Are these govemernment employees tied with political parties? Is it a large number of emplyoees making that amount or very low number? DO we know what teams and or departments you are refering to ? Is it HR direkcotrs? Is it site leaders? Is it Upper Mamangers? DO we know who they are? Are you stating there salaires are 10 to 20 more than all the employees in Serbia? How is that possible? Please explain?
@rj Such salaries do exist in Serbia. They are related to some management positions, and a relatively few higher technical positions. Also, maybe for believe it or not, there are even much higher salaries here as well.
Contrary to them, most of the salaries are the one related to service desks, various analyst positions, account management, logistics, field support, call-1 ... and they are in range 600-900$ after taxation ...
@me Please let us know how is receving 2-3 K salaires as well as 5-6 k salaires in Serbia? HOw many people receive that? What teams?
@aj not everyone is slaving away at L1/L2 positions. Some positions here pay upwards to 5-6 thousand $. Plenty of people on $2-3k salaries aswell.
I've been with NCR for more than a few decades. Nuti messed things up big time. Not just the move out of Ohio in order to get closer to georgia tech, but the massive amount of spending creating sky scrapers. And then things got worse when NCR decided to ki-l of creating most hardware (whatever that was called - shift left I think). I believe Hayford decided that, cant remember. And each division had their own d-mb creations. Like hospitality tried to create a subscription POS, Silver, which is nothing compared to Toast and others. And now its pretty much dead. While trying to modify Aloha to do that at the same time, and that project died quick.
Cebu is a round trip been there before
Serbia has fallen out of favor because the country is about to pass labor reform legislation that would include strengthening the collective bargaining protections of the workforce. The next hotspot is South America. They’re in the same time zone.
@f2 I have heard the same (move to lower cost Cebu). That and AI will replace desk associates w/AI bots. Voyix is the bigger Serbia hub because of the massive desk footprint in Retail. ATM customers don’t really do any maintenance over the phone or on their own. None of this really matters if revenue continues to fall.
@eb Yes, both companies are still in the same building.
There are some rumors that Voyix may go to Cebu from Belgrade, but nothing for sure. Alteos is in pre-merger phase and there is a lot of tension in the air.
I guess that in Serbia the right strategy is to try to find different position outside of NCR ecosphere, because once this starts unfolding, job market will not be able accept everyone. Serbia is much smaller job market and a lot of other foreign companies are reducing workforce and leaving already.
NCR's problem was a dramatic change in it's core business. Modern societies are driving away from cash, and a lot of retail moved online, in paralell with hardware price's margins going down, with a lot of new competition in retail.
This is great change in market paradimg and last, at least two decades of NCR's management, we not even close capable to even think of addressing those changes.
Moving to Serbia was only try to delay inevetable, which unfortunately come very close. ...
Are you talking about Voyix or Atleos? Are both companies still in the same building in Belgrade, BTW?
I feel bad for our Serbian colleagues, for what it's worth. NCR has been falling apart for years, with people like Mike Hayford stealing all the crumbs from the table for themselves. I hope the Serbians know that most American companies are not managed this badly. You can definitely do better, and I hope you do, if you've been RIF'ed.
What does Brinks need from the Atleos Serbian workforce? Atleos is being purchased, redundant positions are going to be cut. On latest on-hands call CEO stated hiring process will be cut back. With all that going on there are going to be severe job cuts.
Should have been worried a few years ago, anyone that didn’t see this coming simply has not been paying attention.
@OP oh wow, im sorry to hear that , how bad has it been in serbia? arent salarys in serbia around a thousand dollars a month net pay? THey cant afford that anyomore?