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@aq where is the “official policy” you’re referencing? I read teamworks and saw the policy stated an average of 8 hours, but I didn’t see “over a 4 week period” as you mentioned. I’m just curious if I’m missing something or not looking where I should.
From what I can tell its manager discretion. I have heard some managers being really hard about the 8. Ours is OK with anything 6 and above.
In addition, @br+1kj5n7cek posted is spot on. They will rank you against other employees not only based on what you do but based on RTO compliance and activity (they track everything now, clicks, what pages you visit, which apps you spend your time in) to create a productivity metric. If you are not meeting expectations, you can bet on being put on a list or getting an "inconsistently meets".
@br how is activity tracked?
@g5 yeah maybe if you work in a worthless LOB like yourself, then sure, RTO literally might just make or break your career.
GTFOH
My four week average was 7.4 and my manager told me I was under what I should be.
@ed missing RTO hours will impact your raise and reduce if not eliminate your bonus for 2026.
@OP No. You’re only allowed to leave to sleep in your car. Why people are seeing Lot Full signs at parking garages. Buy stock in Depends and stock up on pit stick and room concentrate spray. Time bites of foods and drinks between key strokes.
My manager could care less how many hours we come in or even if we come to the office at all. Shockingly he reports to DF.
8 is the expectation, but 8 is not the minimum required. People who average 6+ will not have an issue.
@ed they aren’t
how are they tracking activity? And how do they exactly plan to use that against someone?
Policy is 8 hours. It’s not that complicated.
Sure - every day someone adds a new criteria to the list. Soon it will be bathroom time.
You'd be surprised what the hrs to hit compliance number actual is.
Network or badge. Greatest time between.
I'd tell you but rule #1 of FC is......
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but activity is being tracked too. There are three measurements being tracked.
1) Days in office.
2) Hours in office.
3) Activity
Any one of those three can be used against you.
@b9 I got promoted - but keep telling yourself that. In time you’ll be convinced it’s a fact.
if everyone on your team is getting 8 hours and you are averaging 7, I don't see you being employed long enough to see 2027 as a WF employee
They shared the dashboard with everyone in our group. 7 was the bar for compliance. But sure 8 is great whatever
Official policy is ‘average of eight hours over a 4 week period’ - in other words, if you need to leave early for a personal appointment one day, stay a little later other days. So if you are consistently at 7 you put yourself at risk. Immediate manager may say it’s OK but the fact is that repeatedly with attendance (RTO) and then with hours in office, some arbitrary action has come down from the top (putting people on performance plans, downgrading review rating, etc). It’s been quiet for a while on this but I expect it will come up again in the next couple of months.
Eight is great!
The fact that non-hourly employees are being graded on the hours they spend sitting in a WF-approved seat, versus the actual work they put out, tells you everything you need to know about this policy not being about productivity, but being about control.
It is 8 hours but some managers MIGHT be ok with 7 hours and change.
7 is way too many. You can cross-functionally collaborate, reinforce company culture, and engage in spontaneous corridor conversions in 2 hours max.
Nope. Teamworks says 8 min, manager says 8. The managers that tell you 7 hours is ok are usually the ones barely making 7 themselves. Will bite you in your performance reviews.
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