Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

We've lost our Allstate

Used to be great place to work...could get away with so much skiving. Then if they wanted rid of you would bench you followed by Payoff...or just a payoff.

But there's another way to get you to go....give you lower performance rating than deserve. And they'll get away with it under new framework. Appeal? ...sure but not to an independent panel, to the same people who give you your score. Great system.

Spoke to my manager today and he told me 40% of people were given lower score than should have had simply for reason 'we want to reduce headcount'.

Things are broken, time to think about Plan B


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Post ID: @OP+1kha3f5ba

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Hearing some horror stories this year. Spoke to a friend in an FoC today and he said effectively all his team were calibrated to 3s and 2s and you had to go extremely above and beyond to get a 4.

Problem with 'skiving' (being lazy?) Nowadays is its the people you work with who suffer. I hate the position im in, its time for a change, just want to do enough to make the last months comfortable...but if the payoff gods are reading this...im ready!

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Post ID: @10g+1kha3f5ba

Let's be honest here.

In the past, there was definitely a degree of skiving. For me, I noticed it most around the time of the covid lockdowns. A lot of employees were hired into roles with no responsibility and other longer tenured employees just downed tools.

Covid was 6 years ago now, the argument for trimming the fat has long since disappeared. There is a huge impetus to cull staff numbers and it's clear that management are favouring longer serving employees in favour of younger employees and those who are offshore.

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Post ID: @yf+1kha3f5ba

While I don't like hearing good people getting low scores, it is comforting to know this is across the board and is targeted on those who have consistently been good and have 10+ years experience...because how much is saved by getting people like that to quit rather than paying off??? And in the same year they abolished the appeals process!

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Post ID: @xe+1kha3f5ba

Didn't you hear? We're all in this together!

And by that we mean a culture of systematic repression of meritocracy where the most critical employees are artificially rated down in a black box of contrived criteria for the benefit of the clueless do-nothings at the top.

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Post ID: @w3+1kha3f5ba

Don’t let it get you down and don’t give them the satisfaction of leaving either. Hang on in there, quiet quit, watch some cat videos and take the pay cheque until such times they see fit to put you out of your misery.

There’s real solid people that received poor performance ratings this year. It’s not a reflection on them but a poor reflection of the ‘by design’ clown show that’s being orchestrated.

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Post ID: @vn+1kha3f5ba

There is very little if any skiving on my team. The lazies would be taken off my fellow teammates becuas the work load is so high and demanding that peers would pressure you to go somewhere else. My team, which is full of high performers, now started to get lower ratings as a way to reduce headcount and stile rashes. Interesting that we had people here 15 plus years, who now have medical issues, magically go from great evals to the worst ratings you van get. Seems like they are also targeting the old timers so they dont have to pay a severance

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Post ID: @tr+1kha3f5ba

What We Do know about ANI, cant speak for US or India, is that the headcount will decrease year on year. Last check was 1700, next will be lower. Will drop below 1500 soon and 1200 next 5 years. After that whos to say but I don't think it's a positive sign ANI will still be there in say 10-15.

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Post ID: @mn+1kha3f5ba

@e8 That statement is entirely untrue. Maybe your area isn’t experiencing the affects of the current state, but may other departments are. As a person who communicates with people company wide, it is indeed as OP said in spite of record breaking profits.

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Post ID: @ea+1kha3f5ba

@OP Experienced the same. Same level of effort half the merit. Things continue to get worse. Management is completely incompetent and part of the good old boys club. I see people who do the bare minimum, who have a face management likes and they get max ratings.

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Post ID: @e9+1kha3f5ba

They had record profits. Cutting headcount isn't a priority as it once was

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Post ID: @e8+1kha3f5ba

@OP Absolutely correct. Lowering headcount via terminations for ‘performance’ vs a formal mass layoff(s) keeps them out of the Wll Street Journal and Crains Chicago Bsiness. You all know they fear any and all bad press more than anything. Can’t have the Truth get out !!!

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Post ID: @d3+1kha3f5ba

Incorrect, wonderful theories but wrong in general.

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Post ID: @cw+1kha3f5ba

Well if your intent on working there is to "get away with so much skiving" then it sounds like you actually deserve a lower score in your performance rating. I think you will find that is not just an Allstate thing and any company will score you down if you are not doing what they pay you to do. That said I agree with you that people, even the ones who do not skive, are deliberately being scored down in a pathetic attempt to cheat them out of a decent pay rise and that money is then being pocketed by greedy Management who are milking the company for all that they can get while they can get it.

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Post ID: @c4+1kha3f5ba

Would agree with a lot of that (except the skiving bit). The whole culture has changed and there's a clear push to reduce headcount. Waiting on a payoff maybe isn't as good a tactic as it was last year.

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