Thread regarding Dell Inc. layoffs

What a stupid thing to post, must be a clueless Socialist.

@cr see how it worked in bratislava

@OP ill join

Union membership has been cut in half in the last 40 years. It went from about 20% of the US population to about 10%.

Even if you listen closely to companies bringing back factories to the US, they really want the factories back but they want automation. Not too sure what people can do when this happens. Combine regular automation with AI and you will have a ton of people employed.

@dm really, have you've been witnessing what's beeing going on. Plenty of 'salaried' people being shown the door.

I think most Dell employees are salaried. In my limited experience, unions consider hourly employees as "their people", and salaried folks as "management", even if they're not really managers. Has that changed in recent years?

I don’t think a walkout would work, but I’m in for signing the petition. The smart move is starting quietly. Get the private signatures first and see what the real demand looks like. There is no fear in a signing the document.

Dell counts on people feeling isolated and powerless. You’re going to need at least 30% of the workforce to sign, then you can ask for a union election. But most real efforts don’t move unless you’re closer to 60–70% support privately, because you’ll lose a chunk once pressure kicks in.

you could alway just keep pulling the fire alarm.

Viva la Revolución! Everyone bring your megaphones and red and black flags on monday for the picket line. Wear your co-mie Che Guevarra t-shirts and craft some witty union signs. MD would rather fire you all and gets some skabs to fill your jobs, and if that failed he'd rather close down shop than cater to a bunch of yahoos trying to unionize. He has a ton of money, you don't. He can retire, sell off the buildings or land, live happily ever after. He can open up shop in another state/country if he wanted to... while all you staging the walkout are 4 missed paychecks away from bankruptcy. So great idea commrades!

@av
"Revenue interruption.
Pipeline interruption.
Service-level failures.
Missed quarters.
Lost renewals."

All of these are already happening in my cirner if ISG due to wave after wave of layoffs, but nobody talks about it. One of our top sellers got canned because he was also one of the top paid. Management probably thought it was a genius move too. Right up until they realized almost all of his accounts moved with him to one of our biggest competitors.

Quick, now somebody else post a giant chatgpt wall of text. That'll start the movement!

@av IT is down.

@ap

If one rep walks out

Yeah, they vanish you like a smudge on a monitor. Easy. Slots are always full. HR loves the churn.

If a whole org walks out

That’s not “firing troublemakers.”
That’s business interruption.
Revenue interruption.
Pipeline interruption.
Service-level failures.
Missed quarters.
Lost renewals.
Executives having ulcer flare-ups.
And analysts asking, “Why did a core revenue engine collapse?”

Dell can say people are replaceable. But:
• Inside sales reps take 6–12 months to become productive.
• Big accounts have relationship memory. You can’t throw 200 fresh grads into Fortune accounts and expect them to negotiate PO alignment with hospital systems, banks, manufacturers, etc.
• A mass exit creates press and investor problems.
• Customers lose trust fast.
• Quotas miss. Wall Street reacts. Leadership gets dragged.

Mass walkouts aren’t about the warm bodies.
They’re about the lost experience, trust, and continuity.

Even Amazon or Microsoft would get rocked if entire sales divisions walked.

Would Dell fire the whole group?

They can, but firing entire teams at once triggers:
• Class-action risk
• Whistleblower protection issues
• SEC disclosure issues if it impacts earnings
• Operational collapse (no one to run pipeline, renewals, escalations)

Companies avoid that nightmare unless absolutely forced.

The truth underneath

Corporations act fearless because they assume workers will never coordinate.
If coordination happens? The power flips instantly.

Even the largest companies run on predictability.
A coordinated sales walkout is the opposite of predictable.

So, who’s coming with me?

Realistically, I like the idea but this doesn't work for companies as massive as Dell is... Wouldn't work for Amazon, Apple, Microsoft or any fortune 500 company tbh.

Every person who "walks out" will 100% get fired. I don't think you - or a lot of people - realize that Dell has ZERO issues finding new and qualified employees to replace those they have let go.

So if you get fired for example, there will be dozens and dozens of candidates waiting to be hired and/or applying for that open position. Doesn't matter how cr-ppy of a company you think Dell is because most people looking for jobs would LOVE a job at dell. Large company. Globally known. A well known company. EVERYBODY knows who and what Dell is. Looks good on a resume as well.

A "walk out" is an easy way to be fired at Dell though. I'd say they'd prefer a walk out so they can FIRE people and not have to pay them a dime, actually..

Inside sales teams call in sick Nov 12th -14th.

I'm all for a union. Not interested in just walking out without their backing and support.

Over 25 years ago, most of the server support team walked out in Round Rock, which was massive at the time. Michael called their bluff and just fired them all.

Close friend of mine was drafted from another support team along with so many others and given a few dollars pay raise and Dell chugged along like it never happened.

It would be a mammoth task to get enough support behind it to make MD care. Was recently told that for every person who wants to quit at Dell, there are 35 people who will do your job for cheaper.

Kinda disgusts me, but they got people by the ba--s by just paying them enough to make paycheck to paycheck the reality, but not enough to be able to go months without pay on the whims of a union that has a high likelihood to fail, particularly since most states are ‘at will’ employment.

Let's do it.