Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

Are all the US and NI workers being quiet fired?

Is the company effectively “quiet firing” its U.S. and Northern Ireland employees so they can just put more engineers and customer serivce people in India? Top performers are receiving only 1.5–3% merit increases, denied PTO, benefits appear to be shrinking, leadership feedback feels limited and unconstructive, and training and skills development programs seem to be declining in quality. Unless someone has specialized AI expertise, it can feel like the goal is to push people out or pressure them into working longer hours than they’re paid for. Meanwhile, TW continues to repeat phrases like “we’re all in this together,” like we are still in the heart of COVID. This environment feels even more challenging than during the pandemic. Customer service is in the toliet with AI and all the Indian offshoring. Hire 4x the middle managment to get in the way of being productive at work. I'm just glad I have other options other than this blue toilet. However, I know that everyone is not as fortunate esp in the Orange Tu-d's America. Be the CEO of your own career bc this place does not value you.


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Post ID: @OP+1kjpheejn

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@4xv I agree. The majority of the auto/home insurance is all in the US and a small presence in Canada. The Square Trade/app protection is more world wide.

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Post ID: @6v5+1kjpheejn

It’s getting embarrassing now…pleading with my boss to put me at the top of ‘the list’.

Pay me to leave already. It’s an absolute sh------e this place but I’ll be damned if they think I’m leaving without being paid to leave.

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Post ID: @5t0+1kjpheejn

It definitely feels like there's a continued move towards shifting everything offshore. The emails I see regarding promotions all have something in common. The voices I hear on town halls all have something in common. At best its a form of cronyism, at worst its a calculated decision to move everything offshore.

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Post ID: @5ne+1kjpheejn

Weird a-s company this one is. Does this company even sell any insurance outside of North America? WTF is all this India and apparently "Northern Ireland" stuff? A company that markets and sells to Americans but doesn't keep an American workforce should be shut the fu-k down.

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Post ID: @4xv+1kjpheejn

@3r3 technical talent isn't limited to Allstate. Be in a relevant field, your options open up

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Post ID: @4x0+1kjpheejn

I know of at least 5 ANI tech employees - each with 15+ years tenure that have been shown the door in recent weeks.

I quite quit a year and a half ago. Best thing I ever did. Those psychopath leaders can’t get to you when you simply don’t give a fu-k. Remember that.

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Post ID: @3vc+1kjpheejn

Thing is, allstate is hiring, and they have embraced 100% WFH. All the other old guard insurance companies have executives still clutching onto showing up in office, so they can strut around in their suit and have the little workers bow to them.

So while most other insurance companies are pushing return to office, and are outsourcing work too, expect a lot of talent to start applying to allstate. Im likely to apply for work from home once my employer pulls the rug out on WTH.

and as bad as you all say allstate is, ALL insurance companies are horrific. Id rather have horrible and no commute.

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Post ID: @3r3+1kjpheejn

My team just got a new skip level engineering manager who sits in Bangalore. His team that he is merging with ours all sits there as well, I think there is further consolidation occurring to prepare for Q2 layoffs

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Post ID: @3k6+1kjpheejn

I know some that are nearing retirement and are hoping for severance, but not getting one. Then there are some quiet quitting or being laid off.

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Post ID: @100+1kjpheejn

They absolutely are, and the funniest thing of all is that anyone who remains clearly have blinkers on and trying to not acknowledge it. The amount of posts online about how great Allstate is, the flexible working, the opportunities that Allstate gives them is clearly being curated and orchestrated by leadership. Allstate is a laughing stock in the IT industry. Anybody who thinks it’s a “wise” career move to join this doomed company is already deluded and feeding into the machine of imminent redundancy. Those who have souls that remain there are only hanging in for a redundancy package. The morale in Allstate is at an all time low. In reference to Allstate Northern Ireland….this is the greatest sinking ship since the Titanic. Unless you are sure of getting a pay off, you best grab a violin and start playing as this old, dated and irrelevant US insurance ship sinks to the bottom of the cold cold ocean.

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Post ID: @z8+1kjpheejn

Yes. We’re slowly and surely being overtaken by cheap Indian id--ts. Facts.

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Post ID: @yw+1kjpheejn

It’s all a bell curve, kinda. As manager you can give all the 1 and 2s you want, but you’d look pretty bad. You can only give maybe one each 4 or 5. Doesn’t matter if whole team kicked a—, someone needs to be on bottom. It goes up where sr managers or directors get to rearrange things to look like they are saving money (not spending budget) and take care of their favorites, punish the ones they don’t like.

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Post ID: @m3+1kjpheejn

Fwiw I can confirm that getting a 5 and a significant raise is possible this year.

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Post ID: @ft+1kjpheejn

@c3 depending on tram it is routed to your manager for approval. Unless you where legit sick or FMLA, the answer until a change comming was NO. When they said stuff about being a team player, it was stated so I ambbeing to ask to work 3x harder to meet the deadline and the most i can hope for is a 3 on my eval and mabe a 2% raise . . . Keep your options open

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Post ID: @dy+1kjpheejn

@cb

I got a 1 and received no bonus which su-ks. But on the other hand I work 8-10 hours a week

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Post ID: @db+1kjpheejn

Curious - how are people generally being scored on performance review? Heard that 4 is hard to get and a 5 is just about impossible.

Are people generally being awarded a 3…many 2s and 1s out there?

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Post ID: @cb+1kjpheejn

Denied pto?

Workday has allotted slots per team/dept and it's either available or not. First come, first served

This isn't like management is saying let's sc--w person A but give it to person B

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Post ID: @c3+1kjpheejn

It went from every other year, to quarterly.
used to have a department wide call, now only the affected employee gets a call
unless the person let's you know, you won't find out until you get an email delivery failure
never had a redundancy or layoff meet the local government reporting requirements except the year of the pandemic

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Post ID: @bw+1kjpheejn

Humorous to have someone from NI (a failed state within a larger failed state!) criticize the USA.

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Post ID: @bv+1kjpheejn

There's definitely quiet firing...but im hearing more & more quiet quitting from employees and I think it's the way to. Getting a 5 near impossible; getting a 4 became much harder; the reward to push and get a 3 I'm not sure is worth it for an extra 1%....take your 2 ; enjoy more free time; hopefully a payoff comes. Brush up on CV in spare time and do just enough to not get a 1.

There's def a push in NI to get people to leave. Remember you're just a number to them.

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Post ID: @aa+1kjpheejn

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