LC losing the FLT. Subsurface and C&C GMs both gone. Just the plan he had so he can insert his General Motors cronies disguised as EY consultants.
Who’s next to leave? TK? KB? Those are the only 2 left from the original BB crew. Every single one of them “retired” early or left.
Even with the golden handcuffs of LTIP, all these PSG 26+ are leaving IT voluntarily.
@675 I’m not disagreeing with you. If you read what I wrote, I’m saying it was the POs, most of whom didn’t understand data science, were inflating the figures. The data scientists were usually stuck in the middle, trying to deliver something that delivered what the business actually wanted or needed, whilst also satisfying the POs lofty claims and inflated worths.
And when I say high complexity, I don’t mean they were technically ambitious. I mean they were analytically impossible.
“PO: let’s solve predictive maintenance for this equipment class. That will save us a billion dollars a year. Please complete in two months”
@675 can attest that my experience of all the value calculation stuff is a product of MC having to answer to some earlier iteration of CP. No data scientist I’ve ever worked with lead with any value conversation. They’ve all pretty much been about framing the right problems and just solving it. Nobody I know actually inflated what they did. Adoption was only a problem when IT platforms wanted to turn ANALYSIS into some applications or “tools”. We’ve found them to be generally pretty useful and a good group to work with.
Everything from CP to ADO to all of the processes that we have to do now are the things that just don’t matter and value and story points are quite literally entirely made up in those processes.
This thread is so weak.
No one cares about IT outside of IT people. As far as I’m concerned, more IT LT need to leave because chevron is paying them all too much. I just cannot see any IT leader making as much as they do in any other company in town.
I guess that’s why most of them are still around. If you’re a good technical professional in an area like IT, you’re not going to be very good, otherwise you’d be at some other tech company.
@66k u sound like an IT Ops guy pretending to be in the business. Someone who’s drilling or maintaining would not know anything about IT budget or how data science was historically grown inside IT.
And there’s a reason why that whole team got moved out of IT because people who are just out of touch and got their heads in the sand just go on with a narrative that they really know nothing about.
@670 it all fell apart when POs who do not understand data science had to start pushing that narrative.
If you talk to anybody in the OG group, they would, including JL, they would never talk about value… it’s just analytics and it’s a part of doing business.
The platform construct is what ki-led what was good when they had to make up those numbers (and the DS group didn’t make it up themselves. Those were the business function leaders, managers, POs who did).
Tell me you don’t know the group without telling me you don’t know them… I have certainly never heard any of them claim value themselves. Hate the game, not the players.
@66k lol gimme a break- data science was amongst the lowest budgeted organization in all of IT. And it all started with a cheap German SG who did not fund data science and analytics like other companies.
The team had hardly any bloat. So I don’t know what you’re talking about steering of IT budget when data science had less than 150 people compared to the 4000 of IT.
@66k I can confirm.
Product Owners/Product Managers greatly exaggerate the value of data science solutions, almost to the point of being fraudulent. Data Scientists are often caught in the middle: given high-value projects with a huge risk of failure and complexity, and forced to deliver something to meet the PO’s narrative.
I’ve seen data science solutions where millions of dollars of savings (cost avoidance) were claimed, that no one ever logged into. And the PO never even bothered to check if it was being used. And I’ve seen even more solutions that are barely better than random number generators, not because the data scientists involved did a bad job, but the backlog prioritisation favoured high-value, high-complexity projects that were basically unsolvable.
@66j lol. Blame these id--ts and you should but JL steered significant portion of the IT budget to a data science lie. It’s a low volume topic but data science, whether it’s the place to be or not, hasn’t produced anything. Most of their value is. “Confirmed value” not actual value. And engineers in the field have said it’s obvious. And the only tackle easy problems. Not the one near that matters. That said, theft are getting raises when those of us who are drilling or maintaining are on the outside.
@38g no way! To what?
The announcement from last week with all the XLT backfill stemming from the attrition was pretty disappointing. No talent left. No inspirational leadership left.
@385 RB getting a promotion.
@37v yes, BB was a good leader. But unfortunately, RB remains. A terrible leader, toxic, vindictive and really, really d-mb. But that is the secret to new leader success, surround yourself with incredible d-mb people. I mean, look at the current IT LT, some really stupid people. It’s a pattern. I work for these id--ts. My peers and I mostly ignore what they say because it’s meaningless. Most don’t even understand IT at all. No wonder the rest of the company thinks we’re garbage. Have you ever heard TK speak? It’s hard to believe she graduated high school yet along college. None of these leaders would get paid outside Chevron.
@2ky thanks! And good for BB.
@28d BB is the supply and trading IT guy who left for Phillips 66. He had enough of LC’s ADO bullsh!t
RB is the subsurface tech manager who used to be the GOM IT manager.
Trying to figure out who RB and BB are. Hints?
@17d Agreed. RB is toxic. Smarter than SB but not much. Neither can spell IT yet alone do IT.
So what I am hearing is SB sets the Bar Low where ever she goes!
@104 yes. Not sure why this keeps getting voted down…. RB in SSW = same situation, same personality. Maybe this is what LC is told he needs.
As a shareholder, I seriously hope that SB, AC, BB roles get downgraded a PSG.
People are leaving this sinking ship and opportunities open up for unqualified 25 and 26s to get promotions. Bandaid solutions are not long term promotions.
Just imagine how hard it is to get to a 28. Some GM Ops are 28 and have HSE and OE accountability. What is SB doing compared to some of these senior business leaders to warrant a 28. Same thing as you go down to their backfills.
AC just announced as JM replacement in C&C. She was probably a better choice than SB for subsurface just based on the way she worked with MCBU LT much better than SB. We can clearly see how LC is really being strategic in how he selects people for his LT… or he just doesn’t know anybody besides his EY groupie.
Is this the SB y’all are referring to?
https://trellis.law/doc/155263251/complaint-filed-summons-issued-complaint-filed-summons-is-issued-fee-211119-0134-ck-ulc-435-00-paymt
@t3 the subsurface and wells leaders are going to just obliterate her. she’s not ready for that smoke
Office Space was a documentary.
Idiocracy IS a documentary (being played out in real time).
Going to the pump... getting fuel into one's vehicle... getting a charge at the pump consistent with what shows up on an end of month billing statement.
Miracles.... quite frankly, an exception to history.
Buckle up.
@q4
I don’t know her personally but her reputation precedes her and I have never heard a good comment about her. Its interesting how she climbs the ranks while burning the people around her. That is a political skill that is useful to climb one’s career but it will be interesting to see how she interacts with the “the Engine” staff. If she focuses on cost cutting USA employees she will succeed in the eyes of the ELT.
@s9
He resigned the announcement was sent Wednesday maybe
Where did JM go?
JM is a good one. Sad to see the last vestige of leadership with knowledge and people skills go.
@pr Agreed. JM was a good leader. I really respect him.
SB on the other hand is a complete mo--n. I remember the first time I met her, I thought she's nice, then she spoke. OMG, she’s an id--t. If this is CVX IT’s future, we’re fu---d. She’s in my top 5 d-mbest people ever met (her stupidity is a common water cooler topic). And completely vicious.
@ks
I agree it is sad to see JM leave, he will not be replaced he will just be gone. Sad but true….
@OP
I have been working with some middle management from the engine recently. I am surprised how out of touch they are with organizing and leading projects. If this is the best people Chevron could hire we will be in trouble implementing projects. Mid career people should have more work experience than these people have. Oh well, the new Chevron is about lower cost labor not experienced contributors. I am enjoying watching one of the MSP contractors slowly answer questions to basic questions with just enough information that he doesn’t get in trouble for not helping. The MSP staff have the skills but are not contracted to train the new hires for Chevron.
This move to low cost geographies and MSP staff will be a “journey” as the LT likes to say.
It is sad to see JM leaving. He is great. Don’t know who will replace him… cannot think of anyone in the pipeline.
@h9 she doesn’t lead she yells and screams
@ep absolutely correct. SB is demanding of others with little leadership on her part. Subsurface will suffer greatly. Watched so many leave who had to work under her on M1M… RB is another non leader.
@g9 the LT+1 meeting he just had was such a dumpster fire.
You got his buddy KG at a psg 29-30 reading a piece of paper verbatim, explaining the Chevron way to the group, who obviously knows what the Chevron way is better than him. And the head of engine IT telling us how to manage calendars.
It’s honestly the most disengaged workforce I’ve ever seen.
Office Space seems like a documentary, not a comedy. LC trying to tell us great job, thanks to all the pencil pushing ADO work, we have now generated hundreds of millions of dollars he can report on to RB. Making that useless stuff visible does not equate to actually doing any additional real work that is of any value at all.
It was a sad state of affairs last year when people needed jobs, things were uncertain, but we all saw this coming. This has very little to do with labor arbitrage. This has everything to do with the leader that EB, MN brought in. Sometimes I wonder if he even knows IT at all with the comments he and KG make. And who knows wth is going on with cyber as JR is mute. Nobody knows who he is and why this guy is GLF.
@ey promoted by destroying people below her.
LC has lost the entire IT function not just his FLT. Some of the best people in IT I ever worked with have left in the last 3 months after making it through the layoffs last year.
It’s actually incredible how somebody who cannot work with her customers in the business units and has zero support from BU leaders continue to get promoted. Subsurface is going to eat her alive.
This also shows how disconnected LC is. Did he even get any feedback from S&TB and old MCBU leaders? This is an amazing turn of events.
SB the destroyer of careers and morale got another IT promotion again. gutted midland time to gut the rest.
Well the IT sponsor DM just quit too
@aq
Your comments on the "DEI's" is old. Can you change your complaints and focus on something that matters? :)