Pretty funny that LP announced that only 3rd world countries would be getting raises, some of the countries that were deemed worthy of raises are miles from US friends. I'll bet we haven't had raises in the US for like 10 out of 15 years, always some crisis, that results in a delay. How do you run a company like this? When workers complain about it, the answer is we saved jobs as a result of no raises and your lucky to have a job. Speaking on behalf of the people that are left, who cares! Let more people go. The funniest thing is that my big SVP who send us these strange demanding emails all the time threatens everyone that they won't get a raise next month when raises are planned if we miss achieving 20 different metrics he came up with at the start of the week. Teflon
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@1q4 what are you still crying about? Go back to the basement, your mom made fish sticks tonight.
@1jp Did your VRIF or IRIF come though yet because we’re all waiting for people with better attitudes to move the company forward?
The water cooler? You just outted yourself again.
I thought he was waiting until the end of Q2. Where was this announced that there are no raises ?
@1hc is it possible that people are using bad English to ensure that AI can’t match there type to corporate data sets? Or if not AI the HR management link the language type.
@1e5 I think it's cute how you tried to put "whom" in the sentence to sound smart where "who" should go and then didn't know the difference between there and their. Are you Louie's new speech writer? Maybe read a book instead of trolling the Xerox posts?
@1dz Just as it takes 20% to make the company successful and hopefully in the next round of layoffs we can find the lower 20% of the worker bees whom are dragging us down with there crying about life more than working
@1ck don't be mad because everyone that reads your rambling is laughing at you. You and your 20% can keep dreaming until the bankruptcy filing....😂🤣🤡
@19p instead of calling people clowns go find a way to be part of the 20% or atleast look at what management is seeking in business needs and try and accomplish those. It may get you in the top levels of the worker bees and let you survive the next round of lay offs.
Or play victim, blame management, the company and the traffic light and everything else under the sun instead of being proactive and making yourself better so you can get the opportunities out there when they become available to improve your financial performance.
forget the Bandy clownshow, we got ourselves a clownshow right here! @18f, g, h & j - 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Example of the 80/20 rule
It’s the software engineer (20%) that rewrote the code from a legacy language such as C into a new language that decreased the level of bug reports that exist and need to be troubleshooting and dealt with.
It’s the 80% that moves that code into the firmware chip, and moves the firmware chip into hardware that ships to customers.
The software engineer gets a new job title called sr engineer with a raise in pay in a new band. No longer a jr programmer.
@14q It happened.
@18c we just need the 80% worker bees to continue to pull there weight without complaining about pay raises. If you can’t be a good worker be at Xerox the local government probably has a position for you.
@18c just like Brady as long as I get my paychecks up the last day.. I’ll go ahead and take the pay rate I get this close to retirement. After the company chapter 11 (because chapter 11 doesn’t mean that all employees are released the day the press comes out) and then potentially lay me off then I start retirement 5-7 earlier than planned. A little bit of pain but not much… the extra income I’ll receive goes into investments to help with those early years.
@17b We are talking two different things.. there has been many times where I have moved into newly created positions or different positions that became open durning a reorg at Xerox that had improved financial benefits to me. While it may not have technically been a pay raise because I was in a new position and a new pay band and etc The reality isn’t that at the end of the pay period I saw more money in my check and my bank account.. and I had a new job title and new responsibilities.
Why were these new job titles and responsibilities bestowed to me and others like me; because we are the 20% delivering the change and major results that management asks for.
That's never how it's worked at this company. They've always shut down pay raises for all employees once they hit mid point for their position, regardless of job performance.
@14q You every heard of the 80/20 rule where 80% of your output comes from 20% of your input.
What your failing to see is that there is a top 20% of performers in any corporation (including Xerox) that outperform everyone else to the level that management provides the with financial praises because they are improving the environment better than the 80% worker bees.
Nothing wrong with being a worker bee we all need your work to continue as a company but at the end of the day your work is viewed as standard necessary work by management not the top 20% work necessary to deliver huge returns on the effort.
@14 😂🤣 now I know you're full of it. Never happened. 🤣😂
@xr It absolutely happened. No raises means generally no raises. The favored always get paid. I was favored for a very long time and always got more than others and the rules never applied. The question keeps being asked why people are staying. Its simple, its worth it to some. My ending pay was 35 times my beginning pay.
The pay raised dried up when UB became CEO. It's now nearly 20 years of non-existent pay raises. Employee have lost LOTS of ground in the past 20 years.
The current CEO would have been better served by not saying anything. Employees are now conditioned to not expect pay raises. His announcement amounted to just rubbing our noses in it.
@xr As you sit and call us names; the three of us will continue to look at our paychecks and be satisfied with the extra money we have coming in while we continue to come to work and help improve the use of high end technology solutions at Xerox. If you look at our titles, job descriptions and work we are delivering we are receiving what I have researched to be market wages for our new created positions.
@w1 that definitely didn't happen to you or a few reports". Nice try...
@vx Without giving things away.. I was in one department prior to the XRK/LEX merger in a managerial role and my position was downsized and another department picked me up in a similar middle layer management position and myself and a few reports moved with me into new roles. I will say for myself I took a 23% pay raise with this change the two co-workers that transitioned neither one of them took less than 15% pay raises.
@k4 Did you leave Xerox? Or are you the CEO?
I just got a huge raise!
Don’t be a fool. Get out of this place immediately!! That doesn’t mean tomorrow, that means call your boss and resign.
All of you have had plenty of time to figure out what to do. No more procrastination.
Time to go has past. Bigtime.
The best raise you can give yourself is finding a new position at another employer. Can’t you read between the line. If you’re not getting a raise or a new position with an increased pay rate then you aren’t that important enough for management to care about.
Go find another employer whom will care about your skills and abilities. If you can’t find another employer to pay you more because of skills and abilities lack a reason to pay you more then there is another problem for you to solve instead of complaining about life.
It’s your responsibility not your employer to make yourself an asset to your employer (any employer) that the employer recognizes as someone they need to pay good money to keep.
Even if I do finally receive a raise this year it would be laughably small. Like gee thanks for the few extra cents, now my purchasing power is the same as it was in 2022!
Yes, they went from $4 an hour to $4.25....
@OP I am with you but..those are growing markets , NA is not ....for years.
Also I am sure there salaries were 25% at max comparing NA market.