Thread regarding HCSC (Health Care Service Corporation) layoffs

@eq there will be enough desks if the layoffs coming up are true!

If they don't fire the cooks

They usually like to can folks after the holidays but who knows wih this group. Dont spend too much mney on prezzies

@1af I don't. Hence the question mark.

@1ac that will be half of the company. How do u know that

@1a5 People with no work will get laid off?

We are seeing some strategic movement of people to more ongoing work, and some peoples work being strategically being over to others, all the while others are waiting for work. Not sure what to take away from this

A lot of the layoffs in September hit contractors and consultants, which makes me wonder how that affects WARN requirements, since they technically aren’t full employees. My understanding — based on what I heard from someone higher up in our building — is that there may be more cuts in December, though no specific departments were mentioned. Interestingly, during the September reductions, several leaders happened to be on vacation that same week, which makes the whole situation feel a bit… coordinated.

Nothing listed on the WARN site at this point. But that doesn't mean it won't happen. Usually they avoid this by laying people off in numerous locations, but not enough in any one to trigger to WARN reporting requirements.

@11d yes I’ll move from rural Arkansas to Chicago for $28/hr, that’ll work for me.

@11a You move.

@ze But most of those acquired employees don’t live anywhere near an office so how does that work?

just pure speculation, but HealthSpring brought over roughly 6K employees I think who work in the government business. a 5% layoff would equal right around that same number. We already know there is duplication in the government space, and there are jobs being posted for HealthSpring, so leadership appears committed there. So my guess is legacy GPD would feel the brunt of it

and if you shaved that many legacy employees, then you could potentially do a full 5 days in the office, or maybe even 4. I can see them doing something at some point because there are too many selfish people who refuse to read the memo

Document everything i do, no new work. And don't get invited to meetings what's up? It's coming

@kt

The job market and economy are terrible right now, and next year will be catastrophic at best. I can't imagine all that many people are financially stable enough to just quit and risk being unemployed 6-18 months. If they were, why are they working at BCBS in the first place?

If there's full return, we'll just have to eat s-hit and sit on that expensive furniture and get glared at by the armed, angry security guard downstairs.

Some people post rumors, others troll the site, and everyone is anonymous, so no one should really trust what they read here.

For what it's worth, I have a friend at the Association with personal connections to at least one higher-up at BCBSIL. My friend didn't hear anything about full RTO but did hear about December layoffs of 5%, which frankly I find hard to believe.

My guess - we will see some layoffs, though nowhere near 5%. That awful week in the summer resulted in "only" 350-400 layoffs, terrible for them, but nowhere as bad as the rumors.

My other guess - next year will be very rough due to loss of IFM membership (the company is openly estimating a 25% drop). That alone is going to decimate some teams and we may need to drop the program entirely.

@kt 100%. But they don’t want “quality talent”, they want people to do whatever Maurice wants, no questions asked.

@k8 I do agree 5 days in office would have a lot of people quitting on their own but long term would be so bad for them trying to retain and hire quality talent

I don’t think there will be more layoffs soon, the 5 day RTO is going is going to have many of our best people looking for their next roles without it costing the company any severance payments.

I am waiting for the hammer to fall

@f1 you must be new to the internet. Your “representation of all” is not inclusive of me. I come here to keep up with things - whatever colorful commentary bringing me the lol’s is bonus. I don’t know why anybody wastes energy trying to control people on public message boards…but the only time wasted from my perspective was reading your message.

If we are all at risk and we are the employees of the company, you think HCSC will follow suite with the other carriers and stop paying commission on part d? Sounds like the outside salesforce is at risk of losing their jobs too.

I heard about “6, 9 and 12” months layoffs starting after the Cigna purchase. We crossed the 6 month one….

@ez its comments like this is why people cant take anything on this site seriously. People come here because they are genuinely concerned about their livelihood and here you are with a stupid response like this!

@eq I am confident that after the layoffs we will have enough room for everyone to happily return 5 days a week! Think of all the awesome potlucks we can have!

At this point I dont even care about the RTO 5 days a week. There aren't enough desks for everyone to return 5 days a week. I'm more concerned about the rumors about the layoffs m, which I can only hope that they are only unfounded rumors as some others are saying and people are just blowing this out of proportion. People are seriously just repeating what they are reading from previous posts from September.

I’ve been hearing similar things. Didn’t we also report major losses from the acquisition? It just feels off — the C-suite has been unusually quiet and seems to be shifting blame instead of giving real clarity. They keep saying all of this is meant to ‘steady the ship,’ but what if the ship is still sinking?

I did hear again that lay offs are coming in December and I keep hearing that 5 days in office is coming too.

Surely these are unfounded rumors. Just like how people on here were saying they heard that Maurice was going to announce a 5 day in office policy at the last Town Hall.

@bw yes, no more hybrid. 5 days in the office, physically

This layoff plan. Brought to you by Boston consulting group - worst consultants ever

We already work at least 5 days a week. OP do you mean 5 days in office, no more hybrid?

We also are short staffed in my area and have been for a long time...and they keep adding more work every week. Impossible to keep up so quality suffers and improvements are not done.

@bc I would like to know as well because we literally only have 5 people under my manager and we are drowning as well.

@ac 5% on top of the ones that were already let go?

@b3 what team?? Because my team is drowning and can't keep up. All of us have way more on our plate that we should

Our team has just enough work for the day. Wouldn’t be surprised.

@OP heard 5 percent of workforce.