Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Leaked rumor: Estimated 6,000 to lose jobs in June and nearly 13,000 by end of summer.

Oracle is in the process of consolidating global organizations in a massive reorganization focused on strict cost cutting measures starting this week. Hardest groups hit: Sales, Marketing, R&D, and Hardware, Services will take a pounding as well.

All hands meeting will be scheduled for those affected Thursday June 6th and Friday June 7th depending on employee location in the global time zones. Many groups were informed they are to be moved to a new org, but in reality they are slated for severance packages.

Oracle is cutting ahead of an expected decline in revenue as the rebuild of Oracle cloud software takes place under DJ.

Note: this is a rumor. I have no inside confirmation and neither does my source. However here are 4 really powerful things that happened recently make me think this rumor is correct. The 5th thing has been a long time coming.

_5 signs rumor is correct:

_1. Executive departures and demotions in the past 9 months. They were aware of the massive reorg coming this week. They were not on board with the direction the company is taking.

TK: President of product development (13 years)

PA: Vice President Product Management - Oracle Database (22 years)

HD: Senior Vice President, North America Technology Solution Engineering and Cloud Customer Success (19 years)

MS from Sun is an individual contributor now, he was SVP of Microelectronics (Chief Information Officer and Senior Vice President, Oracle).

AZ ... and the list goes on...

TK wanted Oracle to make more of its software available to run on public clouds from chief rivals Amazon.com Inc. and Microsoft Corp. as a way to diversify from its own struggling infrastructure, a view opposed by Ellison.

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-12/oracle-s-kurian-is-said-to-take-leave-amid-discord-with-ellison

The key here is a recognition of a failing cloud strategy by executives and an open acknowledgement of a lack of both growth and investment in Oracle traditional business. The executives are leaving after decades of service in droves because they can not see any sort of future for Oracle. No investment in infrastructure and a refusal to run Oracle cloud software in other cloud vendors infrastructure, means trying to win the cloud war without an infrastructure strategy. In the words of TK himself “You can not win in cloud without infrastructure.”

_2. March 21 2019: Oracle shuts down its Advertising and Marketing group.

Early in the day, our world-class in-house brand creative team was dissolved.

After more than a decade of building and growing a multidisciplinary brand and creative team with operations in Silicon Valley, SF, LA, NY, TX, Portland, and India, a MANDATORY Organization Announcement conference call delivered the dire news.

The shock was sudden, and disorienting. The initial numbness gave way to questions that couldn't be answered, for doing so is not part of standard corporate protocols for processes like this. Instead team members comforted each other. We helped each other to ready for the end of our last day at Oracle, to alert our colleagues, friends, and business partners, our agencies, and vendors—to minimize any disruption for them, while ours was full blown.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/creative-we-stand-francisco-g-delgadillo/

_3. HR sent out an official mail describing the reorg, and said it will affect around 10% of total work force, with the creation of the new OGS legal entity.

April 29th 2019: Driving Efficiencies at Oracle—Global Corporate Project

Oracle is implementing an efficient, long-term and sustainable global services corporate structure. Our Human Resources team, along with other cross-functional teams, is helping to implement this effort. … Currently we are focused on reviewing Oracle's internal structure for global activities including … cross-country expense charge backs, research and development (R&D), and billable consulting with regard to cross charging mechanisms to help us be more efficient.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC246876

https://www.societe.com/documents-officiels/oracle-global-services-france-sarl-850981358.html

_4. Oracle k--ls R&D center in China. Director of Oracle human resources for the Asia-Pacific region makes the following announcement:

__ "per orders from the U.S. headquarters, Oracle is planning to make some major changes to optimize its business structure, which will inevitably result in huge multi-phase staff reductions globally.

U.S. computer technology giant Oracle is shuttering its entire Research and Development Center in China (CDC). More than 900 employees have been laid off, and the second round of job cuts is expected to happen in July.

According to several Chinese media reports, the layoff notice was made in an all-hands meeting on Tuesday. In the meeting, the company’s head of human resources for the Asia-Pacific region announced that per orders from the U.S. headquarters, Oracle was planning to make some major changes to optimize its business structure, which would inevitably result in huge multi-phase staff reductions globally. Following the brief statement were private layoff conversations inside the Beijing branch of the center, where about 500 employees were informed of their loss of jobs.

https://supchina.com/2019/05/09/oracle-to-lay-off-1600-staff-in-china/

_5. MH, the Oracle CEO is a numbers guy.

2010 Article: Why Mark Hurd is a Bad Match for Oracle

At both NCR (where Hurd was before HP) and HP, he cut expenses to extremes while working to increase his own income. This gets the financials in line and few acquiring companies look at morale as a unique problem and anticipate it in any case. Once the sale is done, the Hurd-like executive moves on to the next project and the lack of employee loyalty becomes someone else’s problem to solve. It is one of the most lucrative types of jobs in the industry but it takes a relatively heartless person to do it because of the adverse impact on employees.

NCR had been sold previously, and the result for the old AT&T was so bad that the acquisition was reversed. This means it would be difficult to sell again. And while it seemed likely that Dell at one point would buy them, that never happened.

HP wasn’t looking to be packaged for sale but Hurd packaged them anyway. He made the firm vastly more valuable to a buyer but stripped out much of HP’s R&D and employee loyalty to get it there. In effect to gain short-term advantages, which is consistent with a sale strategy, Hurd traded off long-term success. This showcased Hurd, after the fact, to be the wrong guy for a CEO job at a company that wasn’t planning to be sold.

source https://www.datamation.com/columns/article.php/3902836/Why-Mark-Hurd-is-a-Bad-Match-for-Oracle.htm

If you want to be successful predicting the future take a good look at the past. MH has a strategy. It's the same strategy he has employed his whole career, he make cuts to cost centers to keep profits up. MH laid off 25,000 people at HP, he has laid off over 23,000 people at Oracle since 2016, and that’s when things were good and revenue was growing. I expect layoffs to start end of this week.

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Majority Of layoffs scheduled for later this week, but reports show a good number of teams and organizations were impacted this morning:

@ZnMpjYc Worldwide cuts in Sales, partner, GBU, services.

@ZnMpjYc-ner People in Manchester NH were told June 24 will be their last day

@ZnvRxhB HUGE layoffs starting today June 3 - Large teams are being asked to join conference calls. The calls last 3-4 minutes and you are cut. Please comment with your position, years of service and severance details: OCI Iaas Sales - 15 years - 1 month severance

@ZnvRxhB-ski 17 years CSM and just like that you are gone

@ZnOBfwA-rft Some CGBU sales positions in EMEA were eliminated in today.

@ZnOBfwA-roo Layoff happened in Canada. CX Sales team cut in half....via conference call.

@ZnOBfwA-oir Data integration and big data and analytics sales teams are gone as of this morning.

@ZnvRxhB-moh Reorgs - Hurd sent mass email this morning saying RG is taking over Cloud Technology, Gen 2 Cloud, Autonomous database and MHura will License Technology & BYOL strategy

@ZnOBfwA-vqr A rif just happened and they did it in a conf call to a large number of employees. What happened to calling an individual and making it personal? Why not a call from HR? Damn

@ZnOBfwA-pdr There were alot of RIF's this morning at Oracle. Confirmed.

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Post ID: @2lln+ZmidJ7U

It would be even more magnificent if the predicted layoff numbers weren't off by two orders of magnitude.

I also like the hyperbole that MH has laid off hundreds of thousands of employees. If that was true HP and Oracle wouldn't have any employees left.

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Post ID: @1tkc+ZmidJ7U

What a magnificent post!

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Post ID: @1ybh+ZmidJ7U

"will probably be another reorg based small layoff that won't even be 1%, just like how it was going to be "carnage" in March"

Exactly. And most of March was a RnD in China! American company w RnD in China doesn't sound voluntary.

Like i said before w the jobless tinfoil hat brigade: a mild wind blows; "It's godzilla coming."

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Post ID: @1jqc+ZmidJ7U

An unnamed CEO of an unnamed company, with an fuzzy range. What happened to the HR memo that said 10%? Does it even exist?

There will probably be another reorg based small layoff that won't even be 1%, just like how it was going to be "carnage" in March and it was about 1%.

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Post ID: @1qvu+ZmidJ7U

And none of it says anything about a 10% worldwide layoff.

Outside confirmation form CRN reports similar numbers mentioned for North America

The CEO of a large Oracle partner with close ties to the company's internal employees told CRN many of those well-informed contacts expect between 5 and 10 percent of the workforce in North America to lose jobs.

https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/hundreds-of-oracle-layoffs-revealed-to-california-regulator

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Post ID: @1wtu+ZmidJ7U

And none of it says anything about a 10% worldwide layoff.

Except this part

In the meeting, the company’s head of human resources for the Asia-Pacific region announced that per orders from the U.S. headquarters, Oracle was planning to make some major changes to optimize its business structure, which would inevitably result in huge multi-phase staff reductions globally.

https://supchina.com/2019/05/09/oracle-to-lay-off-1600-staff-in-china/

And this part:

HR sent out an official mail describing the reorg, and said it will affect around 10% of total work force, with the creation of the new OGS legal entity.

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Post ID: @1daw+ZmidJ7U

"Why are you even here?"

To mock you laid off losers who can't move on with your lives.

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Post ID: @1cfv+ZmidJ7U

OP numbers are correct.

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Post ID: @1rvv+ZmidJ7U

None of that is fiction.

And none of it says anything about a 10% worldwide layoff.

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Post ID: @1tan+ZmidJ7U

Why are you even here?

Why are you even here? If you don't believe layoffs are coming, what are you doing reading and posting in the layoff forums?

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Post ID: @1yxl+ZmidJ7U

"Let me summarize:

blah, laid off, blah, bitter, oracle bad, blah, cant find another job, blah, sky is falling."

So, it is sad to think that someone who doesn't believe that there will be layoffs, and that this board is a waste of time, would dedicate so much time and energy to refute something that they don't believe.

Why are you even here?

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Post ID: @1zej+ZmidJ7U

Why stop at articles from 2010? I heard that Oracle hit some bad times in the 1980s. No doubt most of the people who got laid off were 5 or 10 years into their careers at that point.

2010 article predicted what would happen very accurately. Its all about MH.

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Post ID: @1lse+ZmidJ7U

Let me summarize:

blah, laid off, blah, bitter, oracle bad, blah, cant find another job, blah, sky is falling.

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Post ID: @1ydn+ZmidJ7U

She's also the one who dictates how much Capex to (not) invest in infrastructure and datacenters.

"If they come we will build it" is the Oracle strategy, while everybody else sees it as a competitive advantage.

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Post ID: @1zkp+ZmidJ7U

Isn't it obvious she is LE's figurehead for women in power. MH is his Tennis buddy. Who do you think LE listens to when there is a disagreement? MH is calling all the shots.

You couldn't be more wrong, she's the brains and the controls for all deals, policies, financial, legal and hr decisions. Only sales people report to Hurd, everyone else that does corporate development, financial, sales transactions and policy for deal management, approvals and ordering are under Safra. All the stringent, risk adverse, pain in the a$$ deal requirements all come from her office. She controls everything.

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Post ID: @1qdi+ZmidJ7U

$100M+ last year for SC to be a figurehead, while another guy also on $100M+ vandalizes the joint. No wonder Oracle is going down the toilet.

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Post ID: @1nfs+ZmidJ7U

Fair enough. In that case what does she actually do?

As CEO she is his equal, so why let him run amok and trash the place?

Isn't it obvious she is LE's figurehead for women in power. MH is his Tennis buddy. Who do you think LE listens to when there is a disagreement? MH is calling all the shots.

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Post ID: @1xgx+ZmidJ7U

Fair enough. In that case what does she actually do?

As CEO she is his equal, so why let him run amok and trash the place?

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Post ID: @1jkp+ZmidJ7U

Well in MH's defence, it's not 100% his fault. SC is co-CEO. MH leaving won't fix things if she's still in charge.

SC is not known as the hatchet queen. The layoffs ... the constant never ending stream of layoffs and employee departures is MH's trademark. SC has been with Oracle in one form or another since 2001. Things did not go south, layoffs were not the norm and raises were actually given before MH arrived in 2010.

So lets be clear... MH trashed NCR, HP by driving people away and firing them. He joins Oracle and over 23,000 people are given the boot in the past 3 years. Coincidence? This was not SC, if it was it would have been the norm in 2001 before MH arrived in 2010.

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Post ID: @1afb+ZmidJ7U

Well in MH's defence, it's not 100% his fault. SC is co-CEO. MH leaving won't fix things if she's still in charge.

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Post ID: @1baw+ZmidJ7U

I bet you write great fan fiction. When you are proven wrong, I'll hack this site, find out who you are, find you, and shove your head up your a--.

Fan fiction doesn't have supporting facts like a massive reorg announcement from HR. New legal entities being formed and linked in the post. Layoffs to R&D sites, to Advertising and Marketing, numerous high profile executive departures, 0.01% sales growth for Q3 2019 reported to the SEC in Oracle 10Q... and the statement reported in the news

"per orders from the U.S. headquarters, Oracle is planning to make some major changes to optimize its business structure, which will inevitably result in huge multi-phase staff reductions globally.

https://supchina.com/2019/05/09/oracle-to-lay-off-1600-staff-in-china/

This figure implies that they witnessed a quarterly year/year change in their earnings with -0.01% coming in sequential stages and their sales for the third quarter increasing by 0.01%.

https://finmercury.com/2019/05/20/something-to-watch-before-buying-oracle-corporation-orcl/

None of that is fiction. None of it. If you are angry why be angry at the messenger of a well supported rumor rather than the one man responsible for the whole mess? Why not be angry at the guy who made a career of firing people, cutting benefits and salaries, who laid off nearly 60,000 people at three companies? The same guy who systematically drove off all of Oracles talented executives and sales people for the past 9 years?

Why not be angry at the one guy ultimately responsible for the huge mess Oracle is in? No... lets get mad at the guy giving you a heads up.

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Post ID: @1sit+ZmidJ7U

In another threads it's said that MH is dying of cancer and will resign on Monday.

In this one he's firing everyone, even though most of R&D reports to LE and not to him.

Don't get me wrong, he hasn't been great for the company. But all these rumors contradict each other.

The two Rumors do contradict each other. Doubtful that MH will leave on Monday. There is zero evidence to support this other than occasional weight loss an potential wigs. I'd say the layoff rumor has a lot more supporting evidence.

Sorry but IMHO... For Oracle this is double bad news.

Bad news: MH stays, more bad news thousands of useful employees go.

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Post ID: @1ipy+ZmidJ7U

HR sent out an official mail describing the reorg, and said it will affect around 10% of total work force

I'd love to see this mythical email that says that 10% will be laid off. Maybe Indiana Jones can find it.

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Post ID: @efb+ZmidJ7U

Wow

What a post

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Post ID: @vxo+ZmidJ7U

My cost center hasn't changed. I'm in Sales.

However my manager has which is not showing in Aria, and has not been communicated to me. Very interesting.

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Post ID: @nau+ZmidJ7U

Can someone else check:

HCM>Personal Info>Employment Info:Legacy Cost Center

And see if this is showing same cost center as Aria or a different one?

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Post ID: @ljy+ZmidJ7U

Please note: all employees in OGS are cost center people not revenue producers. It’s China part 1

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Post ID: @ogj+ZmidJ7U

As I said earlier, t–d has cut more people

More ruthlessly during his career at NCR, HP and Oracle than any executive save Jack Welch at GE. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of employees and likely a million plus employees and family and their careers have been negatively affected by T–d personally.

It’s almost unbelievable the carnage that this single man has personally caused so many people.

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