TK.
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I left with smile on my face. If you are a software engineer at the beginning of your career like myself and want to grow, please don’t join Oracle whatever the team is. Oracle has no clue about what software engineering is. They use ADF framework for development. They put in job description knowledge of java needed, but Working with ADF doesn’t need deep knowledge of Java. a boot camp in Java is enough to make do ADF work. So if you like me coming from prestigious school gridding day and night to learn, Oracle will crush your dream to be a damn good SWE. Tech stack in general is damn old most of it is from 10+ years back. Work for. Year and Half there and I didn’t have my own machine for development. I used my manager ancient Linux machine to do development. They don’t use a good code control source tool, since they use their own tech which is ADE. ADE will make you hates your life. In general Oracle is the worst place for any software engineer. Even if you are looking for a chill place to work at just stay away from Oracle.
_The work life balance_
` there is no work and life balance`
only life
# no work
- how cool is that, how do we survive –
Made great money in sales, but you can only hold your nose for so long. Knowing that every deal I did put money in the pocket of "MeToo Mark" was more than I could stomach.
Bad manager + stagnant pay + fear of being RIF'ed.
I was a Sales Engineer and I voluntarily left Orace because:
1) my contribution was not recognized byond a pat on the back,
2) OEAs is an army of incompetents only to steal credit from other people.
BTW, Oracle HR didn't even bother for an exit interview. And, yes MH and his leadership got this great company in a very maleficent state.
I quick Oracle because the metrics are laughable. You have to fake numbers to justify your job at Oracle. How many tasks? How many parts? How many miles? How many hours of OT? Never about the customers.
I left Oracle because, extremely bad Management team. Zero raise, zero bonus. Oracle uses very old technologies to manage their Cloud products. I would advise people not to go there.
I left voluntarily. Oracle has no direction in cloud, Oracle is selling cloud products to customers, solely to the long time Oracle ERP customers and in a sense just closing the deals based on deception and all the vaporware they are selling will turn out into vacuum very soon for the customers and they will have to look for other options. The SaaS product suite is one step down for ERP customers, it is like running customer's workload in Oracle hardware with inept Ops team and numerous contacts from Product Development with no desire of solving the customer's problem, and Pods going up and down at will. With better options available for cloud like AWS which is far more superior, I will not recommend the customer to buy Oracle, I will also look for transitioning the Oracle Databases (Technical debt) into databases which are suited for Cloud architectures.
Further, the organization is in shambles where they make it so hard for the employees to contribute and add real value, there is no accountability for pretty much any area and Oracle somehow is too focused on the stock market only.
The future is bleak for Oracle, so it did make sense to leave and have peace of mind and work on Cloud elsewhere.
I know, same for me. I was in a rut and on a treadmill and didn't even realize it. Getting RIF'd was the kick in the pants I needed to wake up and get myself moving again. The process wasn't very pleasant but the end result was worth it. I don't regret my time at Oracle but I'm glad I'm onto something different.
I was RIF'd, but so completely happy, less anxious with my new company that has much better benefits and an actual strategy for cloud. ORCL is a waste. Get on with a better life.
MH continually chipping away at benefits, no raises, no real Cloud but having commission tied to it and sales VPs looking for ways to extort money out of customers. Finding that competitors were willing to give a significant compensation boost, had products that worked and actually treated their customers fairly sealed the deal.
MH changing the bonus plan so it was virtually impossible to achieve the target and this happening year after year vs. the prior plans for years being tough but achievable. The bonus plans in sales lately need a succession of minor miracles to occur to even get close.
What made me quit my job at Oracle? The a--holes I was working with.
Most people here still work at Oracle. I think that someone here lays traps for us.
T2 and Lumberjack
I'm waiting for the train wreck.
I left oracle before I was laid off. a partner company heard that oracle would lay off oracle employees. And they hired me.
I'm more than happy with that.
I was RIF'd but I actually turned out better than if I stayed. Best thing to happen to me.
I think that is what the company who hired him offered him to leave.
Genuinely curious, -dzr.
Why are you on this board, if you quit two years back, on your own accord, with a 22% bump in salary?
Bad manager
The smell of sh--
My reasons (left in 2017): 22% increase in my total comp...