Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

The "minus 46"

The "minus 46" is the score for Aero DV survey results on a possible range of -100 to +100. Plus 100 means you would highly recommend working here to a friend. Someone already posted the e-mail that came with the result as a comment. I think this score is spot on accurate. This is very encouraging that they are finally asking a relevant question and putting out honest results. I'm sure the negative folks that love this thread will comment otherwise, but this score is accurate and a good sign that we are ready to deal with reality.

This thread is possibly irrelevant for other sites, but a lot of the reasons for the low score are due to the Hon corporate culture, so still pretty applicable.

For those of us who want to think forward on a career with hope for improvement, we do seem to be near bottom of this cycle of poor leadership decisions and we can be hopeful for some improvements and some good decisions. I can hear the negative comments coming, lol. I can't imagine life with the negative and gloomy attitudes displayed on this board. I like reading them for humor but on some level I do have concern for their health. Enjoy the ride people. If you hate the ride, pick another or help make the ride better.

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Post ID: @OP+ZMrCFX7

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update but no numbers. email:
ES Engineering team,
We launched the People Pulse tool six weeks ago as a means to gauge employee sentiment towards our organization.
To date, we’ve sent the tool to 600 team members with a response rate of 43%, and of those 57% have provided specific feedback and comments. Both percentages are considered quite high and for that, ‘thank you!’ for your participation.
I have personally read and assessed each of the comments and I want everyone to know that I am listening to this extremely valuable input. I have categorized each of the comments into ‘recurring themes,’ and will be clearly communicating the details in the coming weeks.
Like most of you, I’m an engineer and use data to create plans to improve and change the systems we design, produce, and work in. These ‘recurring themes’ are the data I intend to use with my staff to create the action plans we will put in motion to change the environment and the perception of the environment we all work in.
As we continue on this path, please take a minute to respond to the People Pulse when you receive the email – your input will tremendously aid us in determining what we should do to help favorably shape our organization.
I look forward to engaging you as we invest in our environment, culture and people to make ES Engineering a place we will all be “Extremely Likely” to recommend to a friend or colleague.
Regards
JE

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Post ID: @Geye+ZMrCFX7

I emailed JE assistant last Friday asking for any updates since the initial reporting was June 27. Heard nothing back. Honeywell management not very proactive? I not go on yammer because I will get hammered .

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Post ID: @Ffyh+ZMrCFX7

Hey HR/Management, its been almost a month since the initial results . Any updates ?

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Post ID: @zpds+ZMrCFX7

I would love to change my ride but the age discrimination that exists keeps me at the aero $h1t h01e. It is a horrible feeling to be trapped like an rat. Relief is comming thank god. And I mean retirement.

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Post ID: @ziby+ZMrCFX7

Boy o boy that Glassdoor is thick with Koolaid . Those HR trolls sure been busy spinning how great it is working at Honeywell, and recommend friends to work there. Do NOT fall for it.

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Post ID: @vxis+ZMrCFX7

Honeywell has no respect for people in general, and less than that for its own employees.

They have a huge blind spot with regard to what it means to treat people right.

The connection between the leaders and everyone else is more or less completely broken. The few brave souls who are trying to reconnect them will find themselves pushed out.

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Post ID: @gbvr+ZMrCFX7

if i am TM my reaction would be to simply close the site surveyed and get rid of JE. time is up on the touchy feely stuff, crack the whip. TM has no ability to improve things so starting over with a new workforce and entirely clean slate products is his best bet.

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Post ID: @7omk+ZMrCFX7

Who do corporations expect to buy their junk if the jobs are sent overseas and American taxpayers have no income? It’s not like corporations pay any taxes. How is the govt to pay for these contracts?

Why is expecting a decent standard of living in exchange for a regular 40 hour week, with unlimited extra effort when needed, doing excellent work, and doing work that 95% of the population is not capable of doing considered lazy and entitled? But it’s okay for a small handful of execs to take an obscene amount of “compensation” DUE TO our labor? Sounds like the thoughts of an a-- kisser who naively think they have a shot at the multi millions. Keep dreaming and giving it all away thinking you will get a pay off in some #FutureShaper future - you won’t.

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Post ID: @5guq+ZMrCFX7

Tim M gets 800k base salary and with bonuses is over 8mil. Remember he got bonus in 2016 while we got furloughs , pay freeze, and RIFs , while company did 5Bill stock buy back. Engineers are Not overpaid.

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Post ID: @5faf+ZMrCFX7

@CXF7 the comments about TM thinking the work force in engineering is lazy and over paid is warranted. It's true. Remember where TM came from prior to his current role. He is demanding more ROI and in turn the engineering community continues to be ultra conservative and not willing to change. Frankly I'm embarrassed to be an engineer at this company.

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Post ID: @5fym+ZMrCFX7

They really caused unintended consequences. They froze pension pay raise portion and thought it would drive old people out. Instead it made them angry and since pension amount is lower they need to keep working so they are not leaving. This reduces promotion options for younger employees. Basically they piss off everyone and are surprised the scores are low? id--ts running this place never cease to amaze me

So let's reward loyal employees with higher 401k match, but instead of getting it every paycheck you need to be employed on December 15. Seriously you think we think that is a benefit?? With that you p-ss-d off old and young.

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Post ID: @4uoz+ZMrCFX7

I got such a thrill yesterday. I was chosen in the survey. They send you an email and you click on the number in the colored scale -- 0 as extremely unlikely , then you are sent to a comment screen.. Yes I went with zero and gave them a list of reasons and suggested that John go to layoff.com/honeywell-international....

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Post ID: @4xll+ZMrCFX7

@ZMrCFX7-3zpt, im sure you would also give the arsonist credit for calling in the fire he started.

Good Grief any more HR shills, out-there posting?

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Post ID: @4wvp+ZMrCFX7

-46 ... one negative point for each hour of the new “Honeywell work week” of forced 46 hours a week - but only get paid for 40.

That is not a company wide policy. Only aero. Yeah JE is a great guy - yeah sure, it’s not his fault he is sitting there collecting big bucks from our free labor, don’t blame him, he is a victim too 🙄

Oh puuuuleeeaze.

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Post ID: @4tyr+ZMrCFX7

I give JE credit for at least asking and trying to do something about it. The problem starts at the top and started before he came along. Outsourcing jobs and manufacturing overseas is a big contributor. The opposite approach Garmin is taking and you can find them at number 5 on Forbes best employer list. Honeywell didn’t make the top 500. Honeywell did make the employer list for Arizona however, tucked in at 56 right behind Wendy’s.

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Post ID: @3zpt+ZMrCFX7

So if somehow the score can be improved to -30 it will be touted as "More Employees than Ever are Recommending Honeyhell for Employment"

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Post ID: @3lon+ZMrCFX7

At least JE has a product line and some backing from the Aero president. The electronic side of Honeywell has about double the funding that the mechanical side has. Try dealing with the yield expectations and benefits takeaway combined with mind numbing work fixing supplier issues combined with zero investment. At least Glassdoor employees seem happy!

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Post ID: @2hwu+ZMrCFX7

management will spin this every which way but the truth. (every which way but loose).

They will make it sound we the engineers did not understand the survey or not understand our leaders . OR they will hand pick slobs to skew the results, and say all is Good.

just watch.

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Post ID: @1lnf+ZMrCFX7

Yet they fail to understand why so many people are leaving and projects are understaffed. Any basic understanding of human nature will tell you that treating people badly will eventually result in push back. They were able to squeeze the employees for a while but it is now becoming counter productive. The economy is too good for them to get away with it long term. These are the type of leaders you read about that companies should avoid. However, I now believe their goal is to drive older employees out in order to avoid paying for layoffs as they consolidates sites. It makes no sense otherwise.

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Post ID: @1omv+ZMrCFX7

Who in Human Resources posted this nonsense? How about spending some of the I'm a Future Shaper budget on some meaningful benefits to your employees. Honeywell is a joke!

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Post ID: @1loy+ZMrCFX7

I strongly commend JE for doing something important, useful, and based on common sense. A real leader would want to know the real status/score. JE put out this simple survey with real and simple to understand results on his own and it was not directed from above. We need more of this kind of leadership at Honeywell at all levels. Following the D's edicts and poor decisions blindly is foolish and will ultimately crash the company. I have very little knowledge of D's background of success but from what I have seen he will blatantly lie to create a performance for stockholders. That is what he is paid to do so I'd say he is doing it well. But that does not make him a good decision maker for the company. It's up to the leadership and managers at all levels (and engineers) to listen to the words from the top but take actions based on creating long term success.

It will be very interesting to see how JE's act of being courageous and wise will play out. I think there is a 50/50 chance he will ultimately be fired for it. The results of the survey put out a very honest but very poor score and display to the world of how bad the engineering environment at Honeywell is. In many ways it is a reflection of D and completely contradicts what D has been lying to stockholders about. The contrast between excited "futereshappers" and the pulse results are a complete mismatch and clarify a lie. So as needed and wise the survey is, it will not help D at all. I hope D will step up and be honest and courageous like JE, but this is 50/50 at best.

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Post ID: @1mig+ZMrCFX7

"help make the ride better" - Sounds like one of the finance guys involved with the "cost cutting" that make Honeywell better.

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Post ID: @1oix+ZMrCFX7

I don’t agree that we are at the bottom in terms of morale. GE fell much lower than Honeywell and we are on the same course.

Engineering does not trust the aero president and knows by his words and actions he considers his work force to be lazy and overpriced. Until that changes only the desperate need apply.

Does TM inspire you?

Do you mind someone telling you that you must charge overtime to a customer when there is no real work to do ? Systematic practice with tableau charts to help make it happen by individual.

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Post ID: @1fix+ZMrCFX7

Obviously you don’t understand the magnitude of the problem, JE’s entire population of engineers rated as do bot recommend. The problem is HUGE. JE and all of his direct reports need to go.

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Post ID: @cqf+ZMrCFX7

If you hate the ride, pick another or help make the ride better.

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