We've had a lot of recent visitors lately. Some inventorying equipment, some taking measurements, even another R&O Site Leader has just visited. Our management team isn't giving us any information at all. The moral at the Site is at an all time low. Has anyone heard anything about Aero R&O Site closures?
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I've seen it too. Anniston leadership and supervision ignoring our customers I've even heard the site leader say f–k southwest and other customers. It's toxic
I agree! I can't remember the last time the site leader or the supervisors showed any interest in taking care of our customers. That's what Anniston has been about for 30 plus years, but all that has changed now....management and supervision don't CARE! The employees do, that's the sad part...leadership and supervision is dragging down a site that has ALWAYS been proud to serve their customers. Pathetic is stating it lightly, it's a total disgrace what the present leadership and supervision is doing to the Anniston facility!
Anniston has really changed in the past couple of months.
The leadership is pathetic.
The shop is not allowed to work on weekends because shipments are "too low"...eventho units are being left in final inspection and shipping every day. AOG units are being ignored and TAT penalty units are left sitting because we're not open on a Saturday.
I never imagined, with a backlog of ~2500 customer units, that we would not be able to do the right thing....satisfy our customers. Something has to be happening.
@njrx I’m tired of the whiney a$$ man children on this site is the problem. It’s ridiculous how some of you behave. If you hate it here so gd much, get a new job! No one is stopping you!
hey ncnn , you HR troll? You not like it here then go drink the Koolaid at Glassdoor . This site here is for the workers or exworkers . Whats it to ya ?
90% of the people who visit this site only want to hear hate and vitriol. down voting your comment was absurd and you're totally right
I’ve never seen so many selfish, self centered, think it’s just about them employees in my life!! This will affect a multitude of people and not just at the site!! How about you work together and be a little more positive and quit with all the negativity!! Encourage not discourage!!!
I still love my job (just not our Leadership) and truly hope our site remains open. There are 200+ employees here that could possibly be unemployed. Will be devastating to a lot of families if it happens. Please keep that in mind when commenting about closures.
Anniston doing more complicated work that Tempe can’t do? You must be new. Almost everything Anniston does came from Tempe and Phoenix, it’s all commercial, Tempe is mostly military and remember that Tempe is the OEM for all that commercial hardware. Grab your crayons and go back to work.
Funny because Anniston doesn't do "Lots of Boeing Hardware". Anniston does do alot of the more difficult parts that Tempe isn't capable of doing. You must be seeing the hardware that's coming from the other sites. Keep dreaming.
Tempe R&O is already processing what was formerly Anniston hardware. The move is already underway. Lots of Boeing products we weren't seeing a year ago.
I retired in April after 34 years, cashed out my pension and 401k. I certainly don’t miss any of this shizzle at all. Interestingly enough the CDC is empty now in Tempe so there is enough space to absorb all of Anniston. Have fun
Tulsa got the same walk through and the Plant Mgr quit?
8awm, Any consolidation will yield fewer total employees. Whether or not it makes sense, Leadership will just do tge simple math add up people at both sites then just multiplyby 85% of whatever.
With the piss poor management team that we have had in Anniston now for 2 years and mediocre numbers to go with it, it was only time before Anniston would be a target. We've been on notice since the roof collapse and that is why they went with a site leader that knows absolutely nothing about Aerospace R&O and the main reason why we have struggled making the numbers. Abandon ship folks, swim for the shore and find you a better job now. Honeywell has gotten all that they need from the Anniston team. If it wasn't true, we would have already been notified. 20+ years of service and I'm out...Peace!!!
Does it seem strange the Glendale Space only gets a 5 yr lease now, while at same time management chose Not to renew DOD Site security clearance?
Sees like wages would be much higher in Tempe than Anniston. You’d save the cost of the real estate, but seems like you’d lose even more in salaries.
With closures for several Aero electronic sites (such as Redmond and ABQ) already announced and underway, it was only a matter of time before the mechanical sites were impacted (in addition to Greer). The ALT and DA are targeting the large ones since that will yield bigger "savings." Anniston is a big target, and the work can be moved to Tempe as it did during the Anniston building problems. Expect the official announcement soon.
What has happend during my 30+ years at Anniston is a disgrace. Constant management turnover and a loss of everyone with experiance. Most of the managers this year were put on a PIP with no raise. Good way to save $ maybe. As much as I hate to agree with all that has been posted things in Anniston do not look good at all. We have made Corporate rich and seems ironic to be in this position. So many of us are near retirement all we can do is ride this ship to the bottom of the ocean if that's where they are sending it.
Anniston will stay if there is something unique about that location being there that adds free cash flow to Hon bottom line. Leaders dont care if it just makes sense; show me the $. Leaders are working to get less employees and brick and mortor s---ing away their cash. If there is space in Phx, or other they will move
the HR manager in Anniston left Greer long before the closure process started. not to say that anyone at Greer found him competent or useful whatsoever. I'd personally be surprised if Anniston closes - look at the types of consolidations so far, similar work into similar sites - who else is doing something similar to what Anniston does?
It’s true that Anniston has faced some extreme challenges these past few years. We haven’t let a roof collapse, horrible leadership or anything else affect our production. That says a lot about our site. We are determined, motivated and proud of our work. We will continue to produce quality work until the very end.... whenever that may be.
Should have known when they started hiring local managers instead of bringing people from outside of Anniston that is was the beginning of the end. They also brought in a HR guy from Greer who is closing so he is experienced in this. It all starts adding up.
Takes about a year to close a site. The betting is on Anniston which is too bad as it is a shop that has worked hard for a long time. Noticed a change in the past 3 - 4 years with leaders not passing down training and information and with the roof cave-in and hurricane, and some poor leadership changes, things slipped. I won't be surprised if the rumors are correct.
How long does it take to shut a site down?
I used to be proud to work for Honeywell. Now when people ask where I work, I cringe when I tell them. . Even they know Honeywell is a Sh..Show. Rumors are flying something fierce at out site. Our Site Leader is a joke. Supervisors are all YES men. My advise to anyone considering employment at Honeywell..... RUN the opposite direction!!
The rumor around Anniston is hitting hard. Word around the facility is that it will be closed and done by middle of next year. A lot of 25-30+ year people gonna be out of a job. Hopefully we can all find means of employment after they chew us up and spit us out. We've gone from "You guys are k--ling it" to "You guys are done".
Move along now,
just some OSHA people? checking on the
overloaded sagging wire shelves ?
safety complaint for the CMG Lab ?
at the DSES / DSEASE / SSO facility ?
new owners of the DSES (DCCEASED ?) facility lease doing due diligence safety probe ?
Who knows. The dangerously overloaded sagging shelves persist.
funny thing to ask is: did they wear any protective
eyewear when invading late at night on a back door safety probe?
Deer Valley has been a job jumping off point to India for many years now. H1B's that remain there will have to chase their jobs back to India eventually.
Deer Valley in Phoenix looks like New Deli West......All that will remain in Phoenix is ITAR related work. They are moving one department at a time to India. Layoffs are alive and well here.
What plant are you in? What side leaders are there? My management team is gone this week. I’m in Olathe.
Anniston is a real possibility. Efforts already underway in Tempe to create more space with the removal of the data center.
Sounds like Anniston might be on the hit list
That is a very good explanation. Thanks!
Well, that guy DAA REE US SIZE MA CHECK has to balance the stock price in such a way so that it does not go below a certain value. He has been holding it above $173 +/- 5 points by laying off employees and through closures.
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Preventing payouts to Band 4s and Band 5s.
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Laying off Band 3s and Band 4s
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Demoting Band 4s to Band 3s
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Pushing out Directors and VPs to spin new adventures like HBT
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Closing sites and laying off workers and technicians
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Adding rudimentary robots as a way to justify replacing employees.
GOOD LUCK! What a hard job to be a SEEE EEE YO!
Look —its pretty simple!
Your planes run for an average 30 years with an airline company. Your development time runs for 5-7 years—which is very long, given the technology advanced that we have made so far!
So, the goal is to reduce that to less than 2 years. When there is no further development, then why do you need these sites? It's a waste of money and resources. Plus, Boeing and Airbus have been pushed out of Eastern Europe and Asian markets by Irkut and Comac. So, they are in the MRO business and AM business as well.
Robots can do the loading and unloading and new folks can work with 7 dashboards. Robots are replacing jobs. Hence, these sites are going to close. The only options are to re-skill yourself and change industry quickly before you get hit by the tsunami.
People do not want wars and destruction so the Defense & Space industry is only growing in the paranoid Satellite industry space. After some to many launches, what remains? Nothing!
Move out. It is a toxic place because they are not going to invest money into a business that they plan to sell away. Toxic conditions are created when a business does not present a profitable option. All the lies about Honeywell Aerospace being great is all false.
Cannot deliver quality on time with all this technology, should say something to the good listener.
No, Greer R & O isn't moving to PHX. The product and equipment are being moved to PHX, but the people are not.
The id--ts that made the decision to close Greer fully expected Greer associates to move to PHX with no RELO packages. So far, all but three people have told them to pack sand.
It might be a lot easier to make a list of the Aero sites NOT closing? Phoenix, Olathe, Minneapolis....
Anything is possible with Honeywell.
Isn’t Greer R&O moving to AZ, maybe just taking stock of current equipment and space requirements at their new home
Which site?