That used to be the case once upon a time, but it seems to me that newer generations don't see this company the same way. Most of the people in their twenties and to some extent in their thirties see this job as a way to get some experience and pad their resume before they move on.
Not that I blame them if this is the case, since Oracle is definitely not what it once was.
Certainly depends on what you are looking for in your stage of life and what org you work in. I've generally had a good nearly 20 year run (came from an acquisition though). Left for a few years to try the startup thing, then a different company, in both cases aside from income I felt like I was going backwards in my career. Returned to O, into the same org which I had left, I continue to be compensated much higher than average, I get respect, I'm not managed, just pointed in a direction, work on reasonably cool stuff. I've been asked once to step into management and said no thanks, but continue to lead and mentor others as I go along. I still have a long 18 years before normal retirement and am not a person that can just "turn a crank", and I don't find it hard to retool and learn and my management supports this. Not knowing the future, but if I can make it to retirement at O that would be good by me. To be fully satisfied though, I do not rely on my job to make me happy all the time, just glad it is interesting enough. If I was to win the lotto though, or come across a dream job (something I have zero experience or training in, but would still provide the same income and benefits) I wouldn't think twice about leaving.
Does anyone really think or want to join Oracle as a lifetime commitment to work in one place? Who would want that life? Not me, I expect payment for my work and some reasonable benefits but if I get a better offer or I no longer enjoy my job at Oracle - I'm outta here.
"That's how it has been done the last 20 years, grandpa."
Not in my startup!
" job as a way to get some experience and pad their resume before they move on."
That's how it has been done the last 20 years, grandpa.
Jesus, keep up with the times. A company doesn't provide you with security and career growth ... that's 100% on you. A company pays you for services rendered.
Indeed it is. Times are changing. Whats happening in Oracle is temporary. Few more years we will be back in action. People are free to leave. Every company has phases in its life that is down. We have great products. OCI is coming up well. Soon enterprises will flock around companies like Oracle. Trust Oracle!!
I don't see any oracle product/software which will be in market stable & doing good business in next few years. There is not much projects/products in oracle to guarantee you keep in ever changing IT world. If u have then stay there but Oracle itself kicking people out.
Omg, avoid oracle like the plague, so many other companies that will give you much better training, experience and resume — SFDC, MSFT, AWS, WorkDay, SAP list goes on and on
FWIW, isn't job hopping par for the course with younger people, many who change jobs every year?
Apparently the innovation hubs are places to go for young people. That's great if they offer hands on experience with new technology and new people can actually learn to apply technology to solving customer problems in an "startup" environment. I hope that's what they are providing.
Also, you can build a career anywhere. It's a little harder at a big company like this where you need to have.picked the "right" group to join. There is still plenty of opportunity here but there are certain things you need to accept. For some areas, no matter how well you do, the entire org gets no increases sometimes. It's not personal, it's just how it works. It also does not apply equally to all of Oracle.
If I were starting, I'd go for startups but I know that environment and I like it. Its easier to get more exposure to newer tech. That's not impossible here but more difficult depending on where you are.
I don't see it as "padding your resume" rather gaining experience and moving on once you've obtained what you need for the next steps in your career. I don't see companies (especially tech) as the IBM of old, where you get in right after college and stay for 40 years. Resumes get built on new roles, increased responsibilities and learning how different industries work and the stigma (if it ever really was valid) of job hopping after a few years - isn't reality now. You can (and should) move to the next best job for you and negotiate better pay, benefits and opportunities. If you think Oracle is the place to grow your career, I think it's long past time for that. This isn't the Oracle of the 1980's & 90's where you could advance on your skills and education.