Thread regarding Juniper Networks Inc. layoffs

Despite the down votes I have to agree with @XCJeytm-6fkc. I personally filed a complaint for workplace bullying. I had evidence to back it up and HR launched an investigation. A few months later, the person jumped to another group in Juniper, and I'm sure it was not coincidence.

The founding father of virtual reality jaron lanier, has commented that in the early days of Facebook their intentions were good, and now they are realizing this social media phenom is doing more harm than good. The leadership at juniper has had a similar impact on the workforce, work environment, and products created by Juniper. Though their intentions and decision making had good intentions at first, the implications have been far worse than expected. This peculiarity is not easy to subscribe to, when you are in it. Take your self out if it and you will see it.

HR operates like an off-shore drilling rig. If they start a fire they know they will perish. If they see a fire they put it out (layoff or kick out the less powerful) and move on. If the fire is too strong, they themselves just abandon the rig (leave Juniper).

That's why HR is down to two people and a potted plant. Don't count on HR to fix anything here.

If you are considering Juniper, don't... Join any one of these instead...Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google, Arista, Cisco, HPE, Dell, Nutanix, VMware, Extreme, Avaya etc., There are many other great places to make a living and be happy than this place full of anger, egos, idïots and corruption. Juniper is not a good place to work, unless you are related or friends with an exec and they bring you in as a VP or director.

HR can demonstrate it's any good on their own by bursting the fiefdoms, racist thugs, gangs and dominance, targeted witch hunts, cleaning up the puke all over in PLM, engineering, marketing from numerous gangs and fiefdoms. Set the right from wrong, enforce the law of the land, and put in place those who have made a joke of all these, and may it be to your own executives and not helping them screw over the ones not part of their gang.

HR is in a big part responsible of for our state of affairs. If you cannot fix any of this, please shut up and move on to your next gig.

HR is too busy chasing posters on this site, than addressing the real issues within the company. They need to chase the imposters in charge instead.

With idïots at the top, HR is being manipulated to protect these useless leadership teams. The employees who built the company from the ground up are getting screwed every possible way. What a shame.

@XCJeytm-6fkc, that's great you have friends in HR. Truly happy for you and your friend. Seriously!

HR has no balls to fire anyone, no one is going to go out on their limbs to fight the great wall of mafia here. Complaints have been made umpteen numbers, they just don't get any attention.

Where is HR in checking and stopping AA's mafia regime. He just has his mates and relatives all promoted to key positions for keeping all in check. Nothing gets done without their know and approval, or plagiarism from their people. They have managed to achieve the ultimate capture of whole engineering and congratulations to them. Now lets see where they take this titanic to sink.

You people should be ashamed of calling yourself H...F*g...R

HR is bs. It's part of the problem. Evidence is all over the place for anyone who wishes to look. HR is in pockets of same as**holes

@XCJeytm-yjj HR does actually keep a record of all that is reported. I heard from a senior HR director that if complaints are filed against specific individuals, then they do make an effort to investigate. Usually nothing happens unless there is evidence to back up what you report. It cannot just be hearsay. Discrimination or any kind of bullying is not tolerated at least on paper. If the bad behavior comes from someone at the VP level or higher, it is usually more difficult unless backed by solid evidence from multiple individuals. I knew a director in Herndon who was reported and disciplined for being verbally abusive and often belittled others. He ended up leaving once the word got out. So bottom line: if you report someone, have evidence to back it up.

My director here in Herndon informed me another round of layoffs coming in June. Anyone heard the same?

Juniper engineering in Sunnyvale is a complete basket case.

#Racial and ethnic discrimination and cleansing, mainly by the Indians and against all others, including fellow Indians of different cast, culture, ethnicity, language.

#Cheap, but low quality, labor flowing with zero standards from India's lower four states has made a mockery of all professional standards and openly engage in unprofessional and illegal activities,. English is not even a language used in office here.

#This cheap and incompetent mass always prevails over the good ones and they eventually leave.

#There is systematic discrimination from almost every manager of every race. Interviews are a sham and candidates prejudged on racial and factors as above. No need to apply for anyone outside of the preferred ethnicity and racial profile, the candidates are either filtered out at a very early stage or brought for an interview just to satisfy diversity charades.

#Your race and face will get you a very long way at Juniper Sunnyvale. But if you don't belong to the preferred profile, be prepared to get mocked, discriminated, abused, PIPed, and pushed/thrown out.

#H1 and L1 (bottom feeders) is mostly a privilege here accorded to those in either the select bands of racial and cultural , or ones who are friends and family of the ruling class elites in engineering.

#Favors of all nature, legal and illegal are quite prevalent. Almost all L1 and H1s have had to give some to someone to be here and get sponsored.

#To survive, steer away from managers and bosses in anyway connected to above methods, or fitting the above profile. Unless you are one of their types, in that case you are in the right place.

@XCJeytm-1mku That does not make the culture of nepotism right. Yes, I wrote the response tagged as @XCJeytm-1pvy . If your PR selling point is a Silicon Valley megastar then you cannot indulge in nepotism of any sort and maintain quality - which is what has happened at Juniper.

How is this any different than hiring people that went to your school? Look at how people at USC stick together.

What about Golf/Social clubs? Same thing.

This is the human condition. You can brand it in any flavor, but humans will side with people associated with what they know or are loyal to.

In some, if not most instances, its the (family) name. Sometimes where you are from adds to that - not from a point of view of caste but from a communal cohesion. But this only applies to "select few" Indians. I am Indian myself and have rarely encountered this from other Indians in my career across the globe. But then again, I did not work for Juniper for too long and whatever time I spent there was spent focused on work. None of my close colleagues were Indian, so I may have missed out on an "experience". Like many Indians, I left India to work abroad because this is precisely what I wanted to escape: culture of nepotism through a feeling of entitlement. But unfortunately , I found some at Juniper as well, not via Indians but via "others". It happens everywhere I guess, if you are "lucky" enough.

How does caste system work? I mean, how does somebody know what caste someone belongs to? Is it by name or place of origin in India or skin color or ...? Pardon my ignorance, I hope my question

doesn't offend.

The point is, there's discrimination at Juniper.

There is racism, casteism, s-xism, ageism, homophobia, genderism, gender essentialism, etc.

I too experienced some of this and it fell on deaf HR ears, when I brought it up to their attention. In my case, it was obvious because those involved admitted their actions were driven by some of these reasons. Even so, HR did nothing. They ignored it.

For this reason, I feel Juniper is not a good place to work. It might be ok if you are a VP or high ranking exec, or working remotely. Even then, you could be subject to some form of discrimination. Be warned. Be aware.

Well, its "caste", not "cast".

Indians are discriminated against in some other GEOs of Juniper, even if they deliver and deliver better than most and acknowledged officially and by customers and partners. They get dumped with inexperienced, incompetent a$$-kisser promoted as Managers out of the blue, just because they are European and somehow entitled. Discrimination is not colour blind - its a culture and Juniper appears to have it at its efficient best.

Spot on. I can’t agree more on the comment about the cast system that is prevalant in engineering. Your mileage solely depends on your cast and which part of India you belong to. Talk about diversity, but I do not see any. Gross humiliation of your talent and education.

Sadly, what you describe here as 'targerted' goes along with some forms of discrimination, which appears to be a common practice, at least in some groups, at Juniper.

I was unaware the (Indian) cast system had such a profound impact on modern day workers in North America, until I started working at Juniper. First, I thought it was a joke and it felt comical and funny. Then I realized it was not funny any more, and these behaviors impacted business. Similar behaviors were based on other forms of flawed reasoning rooted in prejudices that extend beyond racism and bigotry. Blatant discrimination based on s-x, age, and s-xual orientation just as common and considered business as usual at Juniper.

Even when I spoke up about these concerns, HR dismissed my statement. No record was ever taken.

I hope people are aware of this, if they ever consider working at Juniper Networks.

I often wonder how many layoff decisions are rooted in this type of discrimination. There is no room for it in modern day corporations, and those who do think along those terms need to step down from positions of power, or be forced to resign.