Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Who in this company actually believes that “unlimited vacation” is unlimited. You are fooling yourselves.

@3qlp

Sorry I was not more clear in my explanation. I did not approve the vacation hours The person did not work for me during the in time in question. However,Their was an org change and I was gifted with a pre-identified elbow, That I was told to take care of.

Thanks for you kind thoughts.

mxl is correct. It's an accounting thing.

To be more accurate, Honeywell does not offer “unlimited” vacation. What the provide is undefined, non-accruing vacation. They continue to track all hours, and can limit leave hours at the supervisor level. With no accrual, there is nothing due to the employee when they leave, and no leverage for the employee to receive time off at the end of the year (“use or lose”).

This is obviously in the US as these practices are illegal in some countries.

I don't really understand 3ptn post. 1 of his staff members gets a PIP for vacation, called something else I guess, Yet he as the supervisor has to approve the vacation. How does that work???

I’m not quite understanding the OPs issue here other than his supervisor might have said thanks for getting the job done n a hurry before the vacation day. I think it’s just an accounting thing to make sure hours for all days of the week are accounted for. You got to take your day, there is no limit to vacation, you met your deadline like a good Honeywell employee. Other than your manager being oblivious that you had to put in 11 hours a day on average that week to do so (which many of us do routinely) what’s the issue? Salaried employees sometimes have to put in extra hours to meet a deadline... most of us do this every week.

Honeywell managers, take note here. A simple, thanks employee for putting in the time to make sure the deadline was met before you left for your vacation day, would’ve gone a long way here... and it’s free, no cost to the company.

3ptn- you call people trolls, you're worse than that. You trumped up a false reason to put your employee on a PIP , you are scum . How can you look st yourself or your family. You sold your soul to the company and faulsly accuse others.

Supervisors/ managers like you are why Honeyhell is the way it is today.

During my 30 years at HW....

We once had to work mandatory Saturdays and mandatory OT for a while for us normally first shift M-F folks.

It got to the point where we needed to see if we had to use vacation time to take off an occasional Saturday!!

Can’t wait to retire....

Love the ignorant trolls on this site.

Unlimited vacation is s marketing slogan to try and attract neeer younger employees.

Vacation is tracked and is limited!. Managers are coached ( at least in my org) to not grant more vacation to each employee than what they would have earned under the old system.

Had to give a PIP based on vacation last year. Though that was not the wording in the PIP, as HR would not sign off on that sineedefto resort to other trumped up reasons.

Much the same will happen this year around EEI.

Now to the OPs post. He did the work, put in the extra hours (44 hrs by Thursday) and is then told to record 8 hours of vacation for Friday, for a total of 52 hours. For what purpose, other than for the company to say you received a benefit that cost them nothing, and will be tallied up against you.

OP is an id--t...charging 8 hours vacation when you have unlimits doesn't affect anything.

Congrats on being an engineer and getting the job done.

So, you already had approval for a vacation day and I presume you expected to use that vacation day when you requested it. And now that you've taken the vacation day your manager tells you that you have to be charged 8 hours for vacation. I don't see the issue. Unless you were expecting something different you got what you asked for. What exactly is the negative reinforcement?

I thought Honeywell stopped tracking vacation time.

You can turn this back on me as I have Big shoulders however, anyone that gets abused, who is not appreciated, who died not get paid for effort or work accomplished, needs not to come on this site and cry due to his/ her plight.

S--- it up and maintain what Honeyhell gives you or move on. Really simple.

I have left as well but i don't mock the people still there. I don't see the point and speaks about a person's character

I'm not -rlw, but I left Honeywell 12 years ago and still read this forum since there is still a Honeywell facility in my town and I still know a few people over there. The facility is a ghost town, though, and I'm surprised it's still there. I figure the only reason Honeywell still has it is because it's in a relatively inexpensive part of the country (Midwest).

I have moved on in retirement but fun to reaffirm my decision, it makes me smile you so keep working and being miserable while I enjoy life at 59 yo.

To @Vt3sd3S-rlw : If you have really moved on, WTF are you still reading, let alone responding, to this forum? Get a life and really move on.

Why is this a surprise from a rotten place to work? It shouldn't be. S--- it up buttercup or move on like the rest of us.

As a retired engineer who worked at a number of companies besides Honeywell, the deal was always, always, that you worked however many hours it took to get the job done. But, almost always there was a backlog of work so 40 hours was the basic minimum as long as you were on schedule.

The Phoenix Engines time charging system, at least two years ago anyway, would not let put in 0 hours for any Monday-Friday day. So in similar circumstances, I would put in 8 hours of vacation on that Friday.

BTW - the overtime was for chargeable accounts, not overhead. About this time every year, the budget holders would shut off the numbers for us and it was hard to find 40 hours of work, let alone 44.

Yep, only place I know that can criticize you for going above and beyond.

Are you serious? Stop doing overtime completely. If they screw with you like that tell them overtime privilege is over.