Chevron seems excessively democratic most of the time. People with high ratings (consistent 1 performers) get promoted. People with 2- or 3 are the first to be laid off, followed by benchmark 2s. Any high performers laid off (or fired)?
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For cripes sake. Can we get anymore pathetic and victimizing here? Take some responsibility, losers. It's not always someone else's fault. FACT.
Au contraire mon ami, @vjdm. It does happen because that’s precisely the Chevron Way...
Would never happen because that’s against the Chevron Way... lol
Yes. GOM Supervisor, good PMP, promoted to PSG 23, let go a month later. Not crying, just dissapointed in what I thought was a great company.
I had ongoing dirt on my supervisor and manager but I kept it to myself for a couple of years. I got laid off and they didn’t make any effort to advocate for me. I anonymously submitted evidence to the corporate legal department in San Ramon. About six months later those two people were fired from their jobs. Tit for tat.
A lot of passion here. Some very good people were released including West Point graduates, graduates with masters from MIT, individuals that lead the big foot rca. these were all high performers but made the mistake of challenging management whether is was the Gorgon site selection or modularization strategy on Fgp or unqualified engineers that designed the buoy tethers on big foot. If someone had a grievance to get even they did. What a company
acbe, No, stand corrected. The post by 6bbr flew right over your head, since you obviously are a mental midget.
Nothing flies over my head that makes sense, @amwz. You on the other hand are another story. Lol.
Really @awln? Was it your own post by chance?
Agree with the fourth point @7jvt, upper managers and PDR types not adequately representing their applicants for jobs or in the annual salary reviews. As for the over purchasing or the surplus of oilfield supplies getting sent to private homes instead of company storage warehouses, I can attest to the fact this had gone on for years in the GOMBU, but was a much more prevalent practice in the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s. Tens of thousands of Dollars at a time of surplus pipe, cable wire, chains, sheet metal, diesel fuel and other supplies would end up being delivered to the homes of cheating area field managers and supervisors to serve as fencing material for their properties and huge work sheds. One guy actually advertised he built BBQ pits and fancy rigs for private sale with much of this surplus material. Hell, these stories were only the tip of the iceberg.
5dlr, I totally agree with you. I would like to add another cause to your list. When a member of management (direct supervisor, a PDR, et al.) does not have the back bone to stand up for you, you are gone. These spineless cowards have no concept of right and wrong and focus too much on the hearsay and on playing the corporate game. It is a delusion that attitude is everything when it has nothing to do with it. If that logic was correct then emotionally unintelligent employees currently employed full-time should be gone when they are not. And then there is the situation of posts from those who were having suppliers delivering supplies and material to personal homes for free bragging about they are getting away with it. Neither of these are have nothing to do with having the right attitude to work in any company.
I agree. Engineers are terrible leaders for an oil and gas company. What could they possibly know about such an endeavour? I see more potential for strong leadership from our friends in IT, HR and PGPA. Born leaders and fierce competitors!
Too many engineers running the company. Why the company thinks engineers are leaders boggles my mind.
Nothing is certain and there’s no guarantee you will keep your job. When the company orders cuts to be made, only a few lucky well connected employees will survive. The vast majority will fall victim to the cuts if they are in three main groups— in the wrong place, earn more than average pay, or are over 55 years old. That has been evidenced over several layoffs and ROMs in the last 3 or 4 years.
@4nqy, The young Horizons kids are necessary for the future of the company, but I agree we are taking on too many and not throwing back the little fishes that under-perform and are misfits. Sad that Chevron doesn’t keep a balance of seasoned employees to teach, lead and mentor the successful young future engineers and managers. It has a failed focus on only filling desks with cheap salaried kids and keeping the affirmative action non-contributing waste. #SinkingShip.
I know a guy who was a top performer. Hi-Pot! Changed groups just before the musical chairs and didn't have any connections. His boss was very stupid and whacked him. Terrible decision.
Another young hi-pot was on the chopping block but saved by upper mgmt because he was a Horizons petrotech, which, as you know, we are still hiring by the boat load.
1uot - watch your arrogance. I am not playing your childish game.
@1uot you are still not making sense. If it is true an employee has a poor attitude why rank them a 1 and 2+ over an extended period 15 years ?
If you are the best manager in the world why reward that behavior with good rankings and call it out suddenly during layoffs. Why have you kept quiet for 15 years or more?
Why didn't you fire before the layoffs?
What sort of management rewards poor attitude with 1 and 2+?
If indeed you worked for Chevron, you would know a 1 and 2+ is only awarded to those who exceed expectations and have the right work ethic (attitude)?
If however as a manager you were awarding 1 and 2+ for people with so called poor attitude etc, shouldn't you be fired for incompetency and misleading the company?
I totally agree with you in that Chevron has many id--ts for managers and supervisors. I don’t even pause to ponder how the hell they got their jobs. Oh yeah, some got their jobs handed to them to fulfill Chevron’s affirmative action quotas for women, minorities and LGBT. Whatever court order or legal agreement Chevron put themselves into since the Texaco acquisition will be the death knell for this company. Sinking ship.
Chevron culture is derailed. Processes are molded to get pre-defined results since middle management is inexperienced and is clueless about management principles. A 26 psg manager once told me, “we are paid well since we work on a billion $ project” and numerous other sh--.
Living example is how they addressed petro tech automatic promotion.
Unless you are identified or lazy, it is better off move away from Chevron— you resign or they let go.
Yes, @1ixs. The third time is the charm for you. Not everyone, but many of the unfortunate laid off employees were cut because of their attitude over the extent of their career. Sure, some were in the wrong place at the wrong time, but many highly trained technical workers were cut because of their attitude of complacency, entitlement, not thinking something like layoffs would affect them. I stand by what I say.
Politics play a key role when it comes to layoffs. GOM is in the process of filling positions that were filled by former members of DWEPs leadership team. DP and SB are moving on to another department. What other changes are on the horizon?
1fbv.....am trying to make sense of your post.
Are you suggesting everyone laid off from Chevron could have avoided it by simply having a positive attitude?
Are you suggesting that all the backstabbing, undercutting etc is all a delusion.....or let me guess a positive attitude would have alleviated that?
Are you suggesting that everyone laid off, it is all their fault?
Are you suggesting in the spill and fill activity going on BUs, the people who miss out on the positions it is because they do not have a positive attitude?
What exactly is your point?
1kyg … it all has to do with egos and how much there is a need to flex the muscle and demonstrate power. Cost is of no concern because the "ego" will stoop to any level to prove the point. Stop defending something you don't know anything about.
1kyg … your opinion means nothing … I worked there for over 20 years in a lot of parts of the company. I know exactly what I am talking about. I understand you need to convince yourself you are safe but you are not.
@1eyy, It’s you who doesn’t have a clue. A person’s attitude is almost always the reason for success or failure in life and at Chevron too. Don’t think I know what I’m talking about? Then keep on with what you’re doing. Don’t change a thing. The school of hard knocks is free and open to all comers.
wvg … you have no clue what you are talking about so stop slamming people who describe their experiences.
loo … the other issue is when you are trying to stop team from wasting money that also feeds into losing the job ..
Ranking does not matter as long as friends and family members are a part of the decision making process. The leaders will force rank good employees to 2- or 3s to save friends and family members. HR is weak because folks in those groups do not want to get on the wrong side of senior management. The whole PMP process has become a joke in the company. Being a 25 year employee in the 55 age range it is sad to see how the company is continuing to fail top performers by using the layoff route. Hopefully, before I leave the company, I will see it return to the company that it was 10 or 15 years ago.
1bry. How does Working Smart look like in Chevron
If you are over 55, you are out. Your 1 and 2+ PMP rankings will become 2s with no legit explanation. This will legitimize Chevron trimming you from the herd.
Yes i was a consistent high performer getting 1 and 2+ and the odd promotion here and there for over 15 years. I got laid off.
My mistake that am owning, I worked hard Chevron rewarded me for it but I did not work smart.....in hindsight I should have balanced working smart with working hard.
In my journeys post Chevron borrowing from CSOC I have incorporated my learnings WORK SMART!!!!
I was a consistent 2+ and occasional 1- and 1 for most of my career and every year for the last 10 yrs of my 30 year stint. Worked on a team of 10-12 technical folks and was consistently the mentor to new folks on the team. Now, I did select the EOI button when offered and it was accepted. I would have happily taken early retirement and severance, but that was not an option. Even though I wanted to go, Chevron had to make it a termination (says so on all my paperwork). Still got my 52 week severance and unemployment to boot but I would have foregone the unemployment to have Chevron recognize my contribution and let me early-retire with dignity. No career celebration or anything, just an elevator ride to the top of 1500 LA and a forced meeting with manager and HR dolt.
@wvg once upon a time I was a good performer just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Got laid off. I probably was like you thinking layoffs only happened to those who are poor performers and had bad attitude. When the axe came a calling I realised, many innocent hard working people get laid off daily, their only mistake is some of the issues @loo has listed above and others not covered. I have since moved on and learnt never judge anyone who has been laid off, it can be you tomorrow. When your number is up it is up. Enjoy Chevron for what it gives you when you are still there its a great place. When your time is up just say your goodbyes and move on. Layoffs happen to anyone.
@0u0 what @loo is saying is true if you are going through layoffs at the moment if you have been a high performer just be prepared for any outcome to stay or to be laid off. And sometimes it really has nothing to do with you, its simply a case of scarce resources and survival of the fittest
@loo, Once I read your post, it dawned on me those “rules” are generally true throughout life, not only at Chevron. Hint: It’s your attitude that got you sunk.
If you don’t understand the difference between ‘your’ and ‘you’re’, you’re out on your backside as well.
@VdTx0u0-loo you hit the nail right on the head. So true! and id add to that if your not in the purple circle your out too!
Yes me!!
Layoffs are not a democratic process in Chevron dont delude yourself.
Criteria for layoffs in Chevron are:
If you are a threat to your boss or anyone in the PDC....YOU ARE OUT.
If you are at the wrong place at the wrong time i.e. someone has a Godfather who needs to protect someone......YOU ARE OUT
Your boss just doesn't like you.....YOU ARE OUT
Your boss doesn't mind you but sorry they just love someone else more than they love you.....YOU ARE OUT
Your next question is how do they do it if by all accounts you are a top performer.....
They simply decide the work you do is great but it is superflous to their current needs.....they have made every effort to place you in other roles but have not succeeded.
Or they identify a skill you don't have and they emphasize its what they really need for where the organization is headed....