Voluntary RIF

Dear Aero ISC Colleague:

To meet our own growth targets and remain competitive, we must continue to evolve our emphasis on sales and short-cycle growth while further improving productivity, efficiency and cost management.

Every Aerospace business and function has reviewed its Annual Operating Plan (AOP) in line with its Strategic Action Plan (STRAP) goals. In the Integrated Supply Chain, we’ve seen some improvements in factory productivity; however, there is still more work to be done around streamlining our processes, reducing waste, and improving cycle time, all while better managing costs. These efforts will help us meet customer expectations, position us for new business and achieve our organization’s objectives.

Unfortunately, we have made the difficult decision to conduct a workforce reduction in the United States and Canada. This affects ISC non-touch excluding Sourcing however, several factors went into making this decision. We’ll move as quickly as we can through the process and anticipate being able to inform affected employees by December 22, with the last effective day of employment being January 4, 2018.

Following our established, consistent and equitable policies, we will consider individual request to be selected for this reduction. Employees interested in being selected should confidentially send an email to their HR representative by close of business on November 20. Eligible employees selected through this process will be offered the same benefits as other employees affected by this reduction, including severance and outplacement assistance. Honeywell reserves the right to accept or reject self-nomination requests based on business needs. The Honeywell reduction in force policy for non-represented U.S. employees is available online. For employees in Canada, the reduction in force policy can be found in HR Direct, under HR policies.

I understand the burden these decisions have on employees, and it’s always difficult to take actions like this. If you have any questions, please reach out to your manager or HR partner.

Vice President, Integrated Supply Chain

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Has anyone heard how many are expected to be RIF'd? This RIF seems more hush hush than usual.

The package is likely going Tom be what I got a year ago. One week of pay for every year of working there. Six months of Job Placement services (which was good for re-writing my resume). Medical until my pay ran out. Meh.

I complained via email , when local management on a project thanked us for a great design review on a project and said, " there is more to come on this project (name withheld) in 2018." To that I responded, "yeah .... those if (of) us that are left. " .

One of the leaders did not like what I said .... said he understood my feelings and that the site leader trying to improve morale.

That's a laugh!

I think this, then the site leader should take it up with corporate. But he won't. I say this, We the workers need a UNION .

Hey cnn, Southbend and Rocky Mount has always been a pit. Not sure what the union has to do with a RIF oh wait, Honeyhell hates unions so maybe they wouldn’t have one if it wasn’t unionized.

Bottom line is You’re all going away and looking for a job.

When Southbend was locked out you all thought it was funny and stayed in the plant. The laugh is on you. Your all scubs

"These efforts will help us meet customer expectations, position us for new business and achieve our organization’s objectives." -----Its so ridiculous that leadership keeps using this reasoning layoff after layoff after layoff. Obviously just cutting headcount is not working.

"This affects ISC non-touch excluding Sourcing however, several factors went into making this decision."

This sentence makes no sense. Its obvious they just keep cut and pasting from the previous layoff notices.

So lame.

This is hitting more than ISC but it is being kept hush hush, probably because our leaders have told us how well Hon and Aero are doing and don't want to make employees madder than they already are. With the reduction in benefits coming to a site near you in 2019 (based on your votes!) and finally the change in pension everyone has been speculating about, this should finally push the experienced workers in all functions out the door. Good luck getting the cheap young help to drive initiatives that us oldsters know so much about, but hey - if the new wannabe darling of Wall Street says Hon can do it, more power to him! I'll laugh all the way to the bank!

The joke's on them because all the good engineers will leave for better companies. If leadership likes to shoot themselves in the foot that's totally fine. Honeywell is not the only company in town.

Mark my words - 2018 is going to be a rough year for Engineering as well. This is just the beginning. Have heard from multiple RELIABLE sources that project funding is going to pretty much non-existent next year. Plus I've even seen this with my own projects, where we were force to push almost all $ out to 2019. So how the heck are they going to fund projects? The leadership in this company are the lowest form of human beings.

That can only mean one thing folks... More furloughs and RIFs.

Rebalance your 401(K) to keep the Hon percentage at 2-3% or less. Let the Hon runup finance the purchase of real equities or (for those of us fossils) bond & money market funds. Circling the drain. . .

The RIF is real and volunteers are being taken. I've seen the email and confirmed It with higher ups in the area affected. They are keeping It unusually hush hush; as if people don't talk to each othet. It only went out to non-touch labor people, per however they define that.

2vvm is right. This is the only way that the idiot "leaders" know. Gone are the days of improving the business to increase revenue. Gone are the days where this company cared about customers. These days, the extent that HON cares about customers only goes as far as the customer satisfaction surveys they appear to hold in such high regard. The irony is that all these cost saving measures are the primary drivers for the low satisfaction results. Do you think the business sees the correlation? Nope! They either don't get it or choose not to get it.

So, the wheel continues to turn. As HON loses more market share to competitors like Garmin and Rockwell Collins, that side of the business will also get the "Chinese finger trap" approach to management. What that means is, rather than double down to improve the products to take the market share back, HON will just keep cutting resources and headcount. The more they lose the more they will cut. See how that doesn't work? They will continue to use this same approach for the rest of AERO as well.

If anyone listens to the town halls (I call them propaganda), then you will know that most customers hate doing business with HON. We are too expensive (gotta pay all those VPs and VPs of VPs) too complicated, and our products are no longer at the top of the market. All of the cost cutting steps such as moving manufacturing out of HONS control, moving to Indiar for the majority of customer support operations is literally killing the business. The talking heads at the top either don't care or they're too stupid to understand. My opinion is a little of both.

The purpose of this manifesto is to alert anyone who might be reading this that the company is going under day by day. We are not improving. Most of the employees understand this but are too old to find another job or are so close to retirement they're hoping and praying they have another 4 or 5 years left before we all show up one day and there is a chain on the door stating "closed indefinitely".

Although only most Aero ISC got the email, you can bet that employees in other functions were impacted.

Sent only to ISC people? I guess call it a cost saving measure since the email didn't go out to everyone thus saving on email expense. That is about the level of thinking in these RIF's, knee jerk reactions.

This won't be the only one. It's the only tune they know.

For those asking, the MM e-mail was just sent out to Aerospace ISC people.

I am in Clearwater and I got the email.

What is the compensation package? What does it include?

1nht - I posted it after receiving it. I'm at the Norcross site.

I work at Clearwater and absolutely no one, managers included, has heard of or received this email. Has anyone on here actually received it? I want to know so I can volunteer.

I think that MM should Six sigma this and set up reccuring layoff / furlough callendar notification every quarter.

Apply for the volunteer RIF and you get up to 6 months with medical. Surely you could find time to go look for another job.

You could send resumes out from home computer and wait. You could talk to a agency that can help find you a job

So many options so this company can’t keep using you until they want to throw you away.

I'm with 1ynt and zng...

No sense in calling hard workers stupid without knowing the reasons for staying. We choose to hang on for awhile longer for many different reasons. Many of us are at the too old to move on, but too far from early retirement. Others live in a region where good paying jobs are sparse, and moving is not an option due to family matters. And the list can go on. So bug off you troll!

And good luck to the rest of us who want to contnue with Honeywell.

Why all the hate towards the employees still at Honeywell? I don't understand that. Calling us slugs, or in denial, or stupid.... why? I am a single mom, who also takes care of her elderly parents, and is paying off debt my ex created for us while married. I do not have time to go 'job hunting', nor do I have the energy right now. I'm trying to hold onto this job so I can feed my kids and keep a roof over their head. You losing your job was not my fault. Direct your anger somewhere else, please.

to qxf and others, the problem is that ISC (and this is limited to ISC and not "Engineering" directly) cannot increase revenues except by making sure that current orders are fulfilled. What ISC can do and is no doubt told to do, is cut costs by cutting people. Of course, a lot of the "non-touch" people are the ones who are improving productivity but history shows that Honeywell cannot connect their work to reduced costs like it can be laying them off.

Mer. Bobby Hill, speak English son.

@dmy. Yeah I am engineer in Aero and yes I do see the writing on the wall. Clearly. Would tell anyone RUN AWAY from Honeywell.

Yes I’m still here. Why? Not quite at retirement age but beyond the age of being a desirable hire elsewhere. If you are NOT over 55 you would not understand. And at 60 your alternatives s---. I would love to volunteer and get outta here- I have a healthy 401k but unfortunately it’s the healthcare situation that keeps me from early retirement.

At any rate, the older you are the greater your chances to be laid off. And the lesser your chances are to find an equivalent job elsewhere.

Up until these last 3 years, Honeywell/Allied Signal has been good to me. I will count my blessings no matter what and hope for the best.

They won't take me because I touch stuff.

If you are an engineer at Honeywell Aero and have not seen the writing on the wall - then you are in denial, stupid, or part of the problem. I think it is time to move on.

Why do some people get these emails and others don’t? I am band 4 in Aero and I have not received this email.

You can’t judge the greatness of a country on one single company or a business sector, in this case Honeywell aerospace.

So are we better today than the last 8 years.... YES we as a whole are better, just check your 401, crime rates, illegals coming into this country from our southern boarder. Stop trying to make this site a political speaker. Go talk to the NFL

Because the strategy of cutting your costs until the company can no longer function has worked so well for General Electric. Get out while you can and minimize your Honeywell stock exposure if you can.

Still waiting for America to be great again. All the hiring is being done in MX. We're going to have to cross that wall to get a job.

Not just ISC either boys and girls! Get them all!

There is a special place in hell reserved for jerk offs like MM! He will get his just like DC and TPBM!

dmv- please reread the communication

“If you have any questions, please reach out to your manager or HR partner.”

I kid as we all know you never ask our manager or HR anything,

All the best to all less all the managers with no backbone which is most of you.

Who are nontouch employees?

Is that all salaried? Just trying to figure out who in quality is impacted. Site QA, network auditors, supplier QA, or customer QA?

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You slugs just won’t see the writing on the wall. If you’re still at this sorry company, you deserve what you get. Keep hanging on until they show you the door and don’t complain!

Ha Ha Ha!

I told you Aero about the November surprise, once Jan comes around, you know the next phase is furloughs and layoffs. Expect at least 2 RIFs, 2 Layoffs, and 2 Furloughs in Aero for 2018. Merry Christmas and sorry for the bad news, just save and be ready when new opportunities come your way. They cut Engineering to the bone and without engineers, ISC will not grow - simple as that. After ISC RIF, then Aero will be lean numbers will be more attractive for a sale. Best of luck.

Ho ho ho!!!! Meeerrrrrrrrrryyyy Riffmas! In order to make our impossible and laughable revenue goals we need to let a bunch of you go. Since we can't seem to make money by selling products and screwing customers over, I have to take drastic steps to insure my bonus is safe and unfortunately, that means some of you need to go. Addition by subtraction is our motto here in HON ISC. I hope you all have a great Riffmas. Mine will be!

Your inept leader,

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