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Underground policies at Honeywell

I have been begging for training over the last year. Training that is critical for growth and to provide additional capabilities - my manager told me to watch YouTube videos after-hours at home, but not charge training since it affects our yield. He also wanted me do it on top of my mandatory 44 hours of work per week. I asked HR for this policy and HR told me there was no EEI or Yield policy in place and refereed me back to my manager. It seems Honeywell has underground policies in place (unwritten) to not get in trouble. They will not write any of this down since they know it is 1. unethical and 2. possibly illegal. HR is complicit and they need to be reported to the government sighting fraud waste and abuse of government contracts.

Posted by @PBeBVvR-xat, I was wondering if anybody had similar experiences with Honeywell? This sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen, IMHO.

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Post ID: @OP+PCtjatg

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"When management tells you you have to put in x hours of Over time, they have to pay you, check with the state labor laws!! " What I been told is engineers are "exempts" we are paid by salary , so we not get paid OT so says Honeywell management. I feel its morally wrong regardless they saying you are salaried, It just another way of getting every dime from you making you work like a coolie beyond the 40 hrs . I know , I been there when engineers did get paid OT , then Honeywell comes in and nimbles away at it until they pull this EEI and yield crap on us.

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Post ID: @3omo+PCtjatg

Honeywell pretty much eliminated all training except for very special cases - too much $$. And what training there is, is click and watch a PPT or video on intranet. No different than most companies in this day and age. They want people to walk in with the tools to do the job. Besides training, there is a lack of direction too. The bosses these days are finance types that look at numbers in spreadsheets. They don't want to be involved with decisions - figure it out yourself. Decisions pushed down and issues are employees fault, not the bosses. Just the times we are in.

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Post ID: @3bhv+PCtjatg

When management tells you you have to put in x hours of Over time, they have to pay you, check with the state labor laws!!

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Post ID: @2fqb+PCtjatg

You can be working successfully in a role for decades, you still need periodic training to effectively use new tools and techniques in a dynamic workplace. I got tired of begging for training for myself and my subordinates, only to get the annual corporate boilerplate refresher courses. ALT doesn't want to invest in people, it's that simple.

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Post ID: @2dur+PCtjatg

Seems that you weren't qualified for your role. Dont apply for a job that you don't know how to perform and blame it on training.

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Post ID: @1wxs+PCtjatg

Sick time counts against yield as well.

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Post ID: @1xqw+PCtjatg

HON has a lot of money to fight these lawsuits. They know that typically, the serfs don't have the resources to fight this so HON just steamrolls them.

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Post ID: @yja+PCtjatg

This yield "policy" has been unwritten and in effect since the '90s. The new "unlimited" vacation policy is it's new evolution.

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Post ID: @pmd+PCtjatg

Training counts against Yield metrics.

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Post ID: @egu+PCtjatg

I have been there before, I was told to look for free resources and in some cases my manager hinted it would go a long way if I pay for the training myself.

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Post ID: @drv+PCtjatg

I meant 1500 engineers...dang

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Post ID: @xis+PCtjatg

Absolutely! This Engineering Efficiency Index, EEI, is the entire metric that a department (the boss) is measured on for effectiveness and is certainly a measure of the "value" an engineer brings to work when ranking for raises or layoffs come around.

Our last department meeting with him prior to my VRIF he implored us to push our numbers up as "he was the lowest ranked Manager in our area". He offered "innocuous" (his word) ways to meet that...including, but not limited to: logging into email from home and coming in a little earlier and staying a little later each day, and doing 14 minutes of 5S each day. So, 5 days of 15 minutes each, untallied against a burden number, but lumped into your contractual work is easily 1 + hours charged to a contract where no actual contractual work was performed. Multiply that by 2000 engineers and you have 1500 billable hours per week at my old location where NO contract work was performed, but was charged. Those are real numbers and real dollars, brother. If that last one isn't a solid directive to fraud I don't know what is

So tell me that isn't a policy.

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Post ID: @run+PCtjatg

Hmmm

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