Thread regarding Avaya layoffs

I'm leaning towards YES, but it is a complex state. They just now announced a plan to leave chapter 11, so the likelihood of leaving ch11 is high. The trouble is afterwards.

Well after filing for ch11 they finally got a product that seems to be a game changer, the multichannel call center. The question will be whether it is good enough to flourish without a company in a state good enough to push it along, and then pull the company forward.

It is a good start, but Avaya will only cut by half its interest payments, and then will have to pay those in an even harder status with customers jittery about its capacity to survive.

NO! http://www.nojitter.com/post/240172828/avaya-t

Yes. It looks worse than Nortel, Enron, Adelphia, WorldCom, etc.

Avaya killed the Norstar / BCM line which still has a lions share of the marketplace only to force them into an Avaya product or lose the business to competition. Same goes for the Nortel CS1000 and CallPilot. There are a ton of Meridian Mail and CallPilot voicemail ports out there.

Avaya made the same huge mistake that Nortel did of not building on the Nortel data gear.

I still work in the business and customers love the Nortel products. Now sadly many global customers who have Nortel gear or Avaya Blue are moving to Cisco. Cisco isn't doing that great with their layoffs either.

Avaya should have kept the door open for 15 years on all Nortel products to keep the cash coming in.

Each time a patch is released by Avaya I wonder what else it will break. Nortel systems were primarily running on VxWorks on the large systems.

The truth is that hospitals are not going to put ip phones in rooms. There is a enormous amount of TDM customers out there that do not have the financial ability to forklift upgrade to IP or cloud based systems.

Once again a true reflection of mismanagement by listening to marketing rather than engineers and the customer base.

Yes, but we've got another few month to burn even more of the companies diminishing value. Foolish creditors HA HA HA!

yes, of course.

Yes.

Most of the better engineers I know are already looking for better job offers. As they slowly leave the company will continue erode.

Cancelled another all hands Chirico call? Of course this is crashing and burning.

when your Legal VP decides to leave during ch11 what do you think is going to happen

Yes unfortunately. It as a company pretty much lost its edge on everything.

A. Poor, political and biased leadership with lack of vision. Need a complete revamp and refresh.

B. No new products. All products are either revamped or rebundled. Customers are not fools.

C. The word cloud is an oxymoron. Jack of all

D. Insanely complex products to operate with exorbitant pricing.

E. Piling debts

F. If you are firing someone to make revenue at least do that properly. More than 30 percent are still lickers to their good for nothing bosses and are in their comfort zone.

God save.

No....

With the team they have now for sure chapter 7 is YES.

half of Avaya team in Dubai do not know what they are doing and the second half are lost.

Yes ,

Yes, sadly

No... how anyone can say this is similar or worse than Nortel is crazy. Obviously trolls.

This is much worse than NORTEL situation was. Avaya has a big debt due to pay. Seems nobody wants to be on the hook for that debt.

no

yes

Yes, it sure looks like it. This is not what a normal restructuring looks like. This looks more like Nortel collapsing.

No...

No.

Yes, how anyone can say otherwise is crazy.

Yes

No but it'll be a painful exit.

No