@cye1+KOC7EHn Undeniable truth.
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Take a look at some of the other companies on this site that Honeywell is classed with. It doesn’t matter whether it’s aerospace engineering services or automation. For the most part their most recent post and replies to the posts are months old; in contrast, Honeywell has a posts every week and replies to posts every couple of hours. While it might mean that Honeywell employees have more time to post or that employees of the companies we are classed with are not aware of this site, most likely it is either employees are immature whiners (which comes from a failure to attract and keep ‘good’ people) or have genuine concerns that they feel they must voice - at any rate Honeywell employees are not happy. Use this site as a metric when job shopping. Checkout BAE, Boeing, even GE has less posts.
Honeywell in Deer Valley was taken over by abusive Operations Manager. He is now being promoted to work in a different dept. Site leader treats workers like peasants. Threatening employees regularly.
Yep been there 8 yrs was ok till last 4 years unbearable now they dont care about their employees period unprofessional dictatorship too pc
Horrible management and they care little for the employees. Glendale site has mangers that are fostering a hostile work environment. They are 1 to 3 years behind on production. Management has been falsely reporting number to customer and higher up higher company managers. A friend of mine wast let go. My friend was the only one up to date on production all reports where green, but they let the old timers that are just wasting space stay there and do nothing and let my friend go. My friend knew what they are up to and due to that my friend’s manager (Narcissist) tried everything to get my friend fired and accomplished that just recent. They let go two very top-notch employees and keep the dead weight there. I’d would get to work there only if I were in higher manger roll yo clear out the dead weight or to train management on hostile work environments and how to lead people fairly and get the most work done and still have a good environment. U.S. Army Veteran and former NCO here.
They rob you of your pension fund.
They suck the life out of you.
They are 2-3 years late on programs.
Glendale site has allowed over 45 programs late on shipments for 1- 3 years. They have also allowed managers to physically man-handle other employees or bully, single them out, manipulate and lie about their performance, all the while those same managers are leaving work by 1 pm and are always showing away on Teams. They even had the nerve to tell Lockheed that a worker they walked out was the cause of the delay. The bigger leaders have been taking it easy and pushing all the work on the slave workers. They have allowed the people using the system to survive and use the new people as their sacrificial lambs. Lockheed, Nasa, Boeing - wise up - your money is going down the drain. They have been hiding TVAs, QNs, and other non-compliances from you. I would find alternate companies to work with. I suggest you audit them every month. Remember, all the programs are behind! Save your money and find a better run company to work with.
You do realize that you just replied to someone who asked 2 years ago, right? Even people who "loose" things and "than" comment should be able to figure this out.
Honeywell in AB, is full of politics and bad management, in fact it is all full of managers working closed doors.
No respect for hardworking people,all it matters relations with the boss. They do not even care for customers,only stress is numbers on papers.
It seems collection of self oriented, selfish,manipulative politicians.And than there are groups based on color, religion and country.
That's why they are loosing their customers,laying off employees and may have to close shop.
You will like it if you like being nothing more than a block on an excel spreadsheet - until someone in another city clicks on your block and hits the delete button. That said, there are some decent people and managers who know how to protect their people, amidst all the cuts, but it is very random if you are coming in new. Son you may not last long or could be told you are now 3rd party/contractor. Not so much about the work you are doing, but being in the right/wrong place at the right/wrong time. Honeywell is acting like a company for sale so someone can get one last big check. The only thing that matters is cutting costs (seems anyway possible). And yes I have been in meetings with customers calling us "the worst", because of the focus on expense and not the customers. Customer opinions are more important than glassdoor. PS: I was laid off and am doing better so far. Having to get a new job is disruptive and nothing is perfect.
So did the original poster accept the offer or decided to keep looking? Either way, all the best!
So, what was your desicion? Did you accept the offer? Anyone knows? Haven't been here for a while.
One comment below references "a tiny, bitter minority" of HWers posting here.
Well, after all, this IS thelayoff.com! Should job seekers expect to get a balanced viewpoint here? It certainly HAS to be a tiny minority - hundreds of posters, hundreds of k's of HW employees.
I can personally attest that it is very much worse now than 10 years ago, and even much worse now than 2 years ago. I can also honestly state that I have been personally subjected to most of the cost-cutting measures recently listed here (short of actual layoff). So, yeah, it HAS been that bad for some of us (and yeah, I'm a little bitter about being compensated at least 15% less this year than I was 5 years ago, while HW stock value -and CEO compensation - has probably RISEN by more than that).
I cannot, however, judge whether that makes Honeywell a worse company to work for than any other particular company. But job seekers would be well-advised to compare such reported employee treatment complaints against HW to complaints about other employers and use it as one factor in deciding for themselves if HW is more or less likely to be the employer they are looking for. And of course, a slowly-shrinking paycheck is a LOT better than NO paycheck.
I don't know that Honeywell is much worse than most American companies. But I DO believe that it is on the leading edge of the current American corporate strategy of essentially robbing from rank-and-file employees in order to provide ever-larger executive compensation.
Don't join
No payrise
Healthcare up 37%
Final pension strapped
Redundancies
No working from home
Now a furlough
If you are desperate and unemployed still don't join, you might be in a bad place but you won't get rapped and screwed like we are.
It's worse then anything you read. No pay increase, health care increased 37% final pension scrapped, redundancies now a weeks furlough. Do yourself a favour, do not join Honeywell
Please continue looking. You do not have a career or career path at Honeywell.
Look for a company with honors its work contractual agreements with its employees and respects them.
OP Dream job.... These guys will be singing a different tune after Jan. 2017 RIF. Clearwater is a hellhole because of site leader PM. I see many people getting screwed over at Aero. Like any other company, hire on and if you don't like it, move on. DairyA$$ recent communication indicates that he thinks we are making ball point pens and baby clothes. Honeywell is definitely moving out of the US to low cost regions, ISC is going to 3rd party companies, plant consolidations, sell off of underperforming (SBU's) sites. Really depends on your age and what you are looking to get out of working for Honeywell. None of the blanket posts are true for all of Honeywell (except RIF's, furloughs, no pension, 401K reduction, medical benefit reduction, unlimited vacation with mgmt. approval) LMAO
Unless you have no other options and the only choice you're left with is to work for Honeywell or face financial ruin, do NOT take the job. Trust me on this. The day I was laid off was one of my happiest days in years. Maybe, once Dave Cote leaves, if (and this is a big "if") Honeywell manages to regroup and turn itself around in the next couple of years, then reconsider. Right now though, it would be like getting a job as a waiter on the Titanic. In fact, although I have a decent severance package (in the form of a salary continuance), I plan to start looking for a job well before I actually have to, because I fear that putting the name "Honeywell" on my resume will soon lose it's caché.
if you have ever worked in a company where software eng and people are considered a value add, then HON is not your company
i cant see how anybody who wants to advance their career in software or product delivery of software solutions would ever willingly sign on with HON
its a hardware/manufacturing mentality that gets in the way of software excellence every minute of every day
Putrid hellhole of abuse, lies, and greed.
Find a place that is technology first. You will most likely grow your skills and be of value to the market. Here, they want to make the IT worker like the factory work. RUN! RUN FAST AND RUN FAR!!!
Yea right phx engines. 1015 is a mess and 1014 ain't any better. A friend of mine said 1015 no longer pays DOT for non exempt employees working holidays starting in 2017. If this is true, you are going to see Production fall off a cliff. A place that depends on OT cannot survive without the employees pumping product out. Best of luck in 2017 lmao.
Honeywell Tempe is a low class organization to work for. If the FAA and customers performed a thorough audit they would shut this site down in a minute.
Good for you
Thanks.
If you think this is an up time for folks that had seniority, then you're simply in denial of current events.
I wasn't trying to insinuate that. Was more trying to draw a distinction between purely the work environment I've experienced and how it's been portrayed on this discussion (Cuts, furloughs, etc being a separate topic).
All I can say then are two things.
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Good for you to have saved I. The booming times
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If you think this is an up time for folks that had seniority, then you're simply in denial of current events.
More than likely this is a...
Wrong. I have a family and put away an emergency fund during the years when things were booming.
They're happy no matter what happens
Correct.
More than likely this is a fresh out of school kid living at home and making 55k a year. Happy to have a paycheck and no real responsibility outside Honeywell.
When you have to pay a mortgage and feed a family, RIF's and certainly furloughs matter. To this person. They're happy no matter what happens
Hey 'dream job engines guy': I'd bet the farm that you are younger than 40. Why the 'anonymous' if you are so enamored?
Make my dentity known to the psychopaths who post here.
Great idea
I have worked so far in four different companies and Honeywell was one of my ex-employers. To be fair, Honeywell is a semi-decent place to work. Not the best and certainly not the worst. Trust me, there are a lot of companies that are worse. The sad thing is it is definitely not as decent as it used to be. The good thing I can see is that Honeywell is still a famous technology company and will certainly help you on the resume to future job hunting.
Hey 'dream job engines guy': I'd bet the farm that you are younger than 40. Why the 'anonymous' if you are so enamored?
Clearwater agrees with your statement.
Im sorry to hear that, Clearwater. Maybe people shouldn't paint working for the company as a whole with that broad brush. People like the OP probably get scared away after visiting this board and for no good reason.
Good for you Phoenix engines. Clearwater is a living hell.
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Really? I must be spoiled at phx engines because it's seriously a dream job. There's a culture of getting the job done, leaders are flexible and aren't jerks, I set my own schedule/priorities, senior employees are great and willing to help, you get a ton of valuable training, ethical challenges come up but can be resolved with a little pushback, morale is pretty good despite the cuts, furloughs, etc.
maybe at different sites it actually has the feel of a different company because I don't see too many of the complaints applying here.
@3tuv. Honestly my career at Honeywell was awesome until about 18 months ago. Always block 1-2, never a bad review, loved my job. Would have recommended it to anyone as a good company.
After a hellish 18 months, I would love to leave but I am your typical 59 year old, 20+years here, and no matter what anyone tries to say, the job outlook at this point is very bleak and, frankly, I would be looking at a minimum $50k+ a year hit. So yes, I'm putting up with this misery for the money only and trying like hell to hold on.
I wish the best for everyone caught in this mess-
Nearly 45 years in industry working for 5 fortune 100 companies. At the end of my career as an engineer Honeywell was clearly the worst company I worked for. Clearly the lifetime Honeywellers that are still loyal to steaming pile of putrid employee abuse deserves to continue to prop up this company. Don't start your career by being abused by Honeyhell . . . run Forest run!
I left honeywell for a better opportunity earlier this year. I have to say Honeywelll was one of the worst companies I ever worked for. This was due to the management at the site level. There are good companies out there, I am lucky and found a great job and I"m soooo happy now. I'm not sure why I didn't file a harassment claim against HON. However I held several positions before my last one at Honeywell and I was totally satisfied with my job, actually never thought I'd leave until the abuse started. One more comment...I've read the posts for several other companies on this site, haven't seen any with as much hate mail as HON...even if this is a layoff site.
the list is based on glassdoor reviews
Good point. The posters on this site (a tiny, bitter minority) could probably sway the glassdoor reviews and push Honeywell onto the list. (I think I even saw a post where someone was trying to achieve this goal.) So that list probably isn't a good measure.
So it sounds like you come from the tech industry. It seems a move to any aerospace company would result in lower job satisfaction. Why'd you do it and what's keeping you here?
That's another reason I'm not buying it. With all the griping and complaining, you'd think that people would leave Honeywell for other companies in droves.
Whenever I ask the question what's keeping the complainers here, I'm told either 1) shut up (not an argument) or 2) they're too close to retirement (point taken but most of the time these peoples only basis for comparison is "the way Honeywell used to be" when similar changes are taking place industry-wide).
IT is pretty bad. However, if you are looking just to gain some experience, not stay and move on - it would work. I would take it while looking for something else - or if you need a job.
Honeywell may not yet be in that 'top 10' list of worst companies to work for, but that is only because the list is coming from one single source (Glassdoor.com) and frankly what's been going on this last year at Honeywell had not quite caught up with those reviews yet.
Make no mistake; Honeywell will be there. When you treat your employees as bad as they have this past year- and when 2017 hits and it will be worse than this year- the word will be out, loud and clear.
And I have had the fortune to work for other companies. Hewlett Packard (back in the glory days when they were thriving and knew how to treat employees) and Amazon- a company which also treats their employees quite well (and expects the employee to reciprocate by excelling).
There are many good forward-thinking companies out there, ones that value their employees and realize employees are an asset, not a liability- Honeywell is NOT one of them.
This guy is either an idiot or is a corporate hack sent here to try and keep the facts from ruining the company
That's not an argument, buddy. Try and refute something specific that I said. It goes something like this:
there is no company as bad as Honeywell
Have you worked for another company? I have and Honeywell isn't the worst. If you want more evidence, Google "worst companies to work for". You won't find Honeywell anywhere.
Try again, pal.