Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

DV Site construction area

Anyone know what they are doing with the big area of cubicles they cleaned out not far from the cafeteria? Looks like something is being moved in there, and they added another set of scan to get in entry doors.

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I hear they are trying to stick NGFMS on military aircraft now, God help us all.

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Post ID: @5rdg+KJrZRcd

Ahh I see we mentioned 787 and 777x. Good example.

787 and 777x is a FMS made for boeing only. Not like NGFMS which is a core project abstraction bonanza.

So therefore, 787 and 777 software was way easier to work on and implement. If I recall correctly 787 and A380 were one of the few FMS projects that went smoothly and somewhat on time and on budget. Because they were non core and developed for the OEM only. Old school.

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Post ID: @5oka+KJrZRcd

Being that FMS is very complicated with many many functional areas, it gets even more complex to implement when you layer it with abstraction over abstraction over abstraction. Even though it looks good in design and very high tech and advanced ... when it comes to actually doing the software ... it is extremely taxing on the engineer. That's why NGFMS went over budget by like 600 million or something like that. The design was good it just came down to execution. Very difficult to do. Kind of like Parkour ... super awesome if you are proficient in it ... and really cool to watch someone do it. But not really useful in the real world. And so that's why Boeing and Airbus want nothing to do with NGFMS. They can see the circus act. The NGFMS software architecture would only be good on projects that do not have much complex functional areas. Then it could work. So be weary when you hear NGFMS software architecture.

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Post ID: @5gdp+KJrZRcd

And for those who aren't in Aero, scuttlebutt is that when Boeing gave us the new 777X and we wanted to go with NGFMS, they said no f---ing way and hence, it is rolled-over Dreamliner 787 code.

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Post ID: @4ank+KJrZRcd

Titan will be a huge failure if NGFMS is nay indication. Leadrship NEVER learns. Too many senior mangment type in the way, no real expetise, the really expert software people will not work under the Honeywell environment, too process retrictive, cubucle farms and too oppresive with the 12 steps of HPD, like AA, 12 steps of grief.

NGFMS had huge overruns and has never been profitable. The NGFMS is fraught with issues and is like spaghetti, pull one string ofnoodle sna you can't tell what will unravel. It alos cost 100s of millions more than expected.

No I think NOT, Titan was doomed the day Bob Smith started working at Honeywell.

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Post ID: @4hky+KJrZRcd

It's Titanic .... They ran out of room on the sign for the ic.

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Post ID: @3auw+KJrZRcd

The Titan War Room sign is up. Rumor was correct on that part.

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Post ID: @2hbr+KJrZRcd

I hope that Titan is a great success. I have been involved with early stage prototyping work and my confidence in it is not high.

Even if it is a huge success, Honeywell needs to sell it. Considering our record with customers that will be major a challenge.

Furthermore, Titan is a long term outlook, it will do nothing for short term growth.

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Post ID: @1qzd+KJrZRcd

It is for Titan and it's rumored that it will be the new office setup with low walls instead of cubicles. The leaders have more air transport experience than epic experience and it appears to me to be driving towards air transport baselines even though it's not for that market. Lots of really experienced folks from all markets involved. Whether they can meet the tight budget constraints for approval to move forward remains to be seen. But let's not trash it, or the folks working it, at this early stage..

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Post ID: @1giy+KJrZRcd

if you do a search for Titan, from honeywell home page, it will take you to product specs, not very secret. same folks as epic? hmmm H lost $5B big ones on that project. that wont happen again now that this company is totally controlled by the bean counters and lawyers......

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Post ID: @1jam+KJrZRcd

if you do a search for Titan, from honeywell home page, it will take you to product specs, not very secret. same folks as epic? hmmm H lost $5B big ones on that project. that wont happen again now that this company is totally controlled by the bean counters and lawyers......

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Post ID: @1nhy+KJrZRcd

Hate to say it but Titan is already a failure. Honeywell is about 10 years late and people working Titan are the same ones that brought us wonderful Epic. Hope it works, for the sake of Aerospace, because they are banking everything on it.

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Post ID: @1lxd+KJrZRcd

Hate to waste time reading "funny" comments rather than factual information. So, to clarify, it is a fact that the area is for Project Titan. In past few months some of this work was done over at Space building, but it looks like this is being moved to Deer Valley.

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Post ID: @1dyz+KJrZRcd

It's going to be a special room full of flat screen televisions, tuned to CNN 24/7

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Post ID: @1uxp+KJrZRcd

Transition/training hub. Hence the new signage on how to use the toilet in the US.

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Post ID: @gpr+KJrZRcd

Really...top secret and doing it in a high traffic view area.......that has no benches, minimal power availability...carpeted floors....far from all other Engineering.....sounds like a HW mole to me. The workers said it was for the Trainig center. Seems to me we wont know until it is completed......

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Post ID: @gww+KJrZRcd

cokpit ... haha can't believe this site censors c---pit. Have to spell it wrong to make it stick.

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Post ID: @bvv+KJrZRcd

Titan is a new avionics project. The next generation c---pit technology. It's all hush hush top secret. They are doing R&D and prototyping and stuff. That area will be their laboratory and work area.

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Post ID: @erf+KJrZRcd

So Titan is a code name for a transision like Dixie was?

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Post ID: @yfw+KJrZRcd

Its for Titan.

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Post ID: @heh+KJrZRcd

It's for the site transition team.

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Post ID: @zyz+KJrZRcd

I heard it was for new project called Titan, all will.work in same area, integration of FMS with other SW, no customers though. Is this H vision of future?

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Post ID: @rnt+KJrZRcd

It is for the non ITAR people, or other Company (Celestica) badged employees to start the transition and takeover.

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