Some wouldn't pass a child mental stability test.
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I was in the oil business back in 1986 when the big meltdown happened. What is happening now is still not as bad as back then, but the exact same thing is happening regarding layoffs. Older and higher paid people are cut first. Office politics become very ugly and those not well connected are cut first. Many good people are cut while lesser people keep their jobs. Managers are busy casting blame and covering their own rear. A sense of randomness and helplessness as to who stays and who goes. The longer the longer thè market stays down, more 'safe' positions are eliminated. On and on. Too many people here have never experienced anything like this. One thing for certain. There will be a great dumbing down at Chevron and everywhere else as the most knowledgeable and experienced people are let go, never to return. It happened before and yhis time is no different. Management puts too much faith and confidence in software advances as a replacement for real world experience.
Fired by an email. After 32 years in oil industry working for 7 different multi national companies i was fired by an email. Chevron looks at 2 things when they fire age above 50 you are a goner and high salary you are out as well.
15 years at chevron taught me one thing: most successful employees did it one way through politics... Through selling themselves and their "accomplishments". Politics was way more important than actual performance. Management was always too busy selling themselves to be able to fairly judge their own employees performance.
Chevron employees also learn the art of getting in their supervisors ear and subtly suggesting their coworkers are incompetent.
In the open, it is the chevron way. Behind closed doors it is the hunger games.
Looks like the OP was right.
If I lived my life as a fraud and lied about my credentials to get a job, then I not only wouldn't be proud I would keep it to myself. I wouldn't even want to tell my family I would be so embarrassed. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. It's not like you just played up your abilities on your resume, an earned degree or certification is a black or white deal. There's no middle ground there. If you lied about that, that's fraud and most companies would not only kick you out, you would probably be black-listed. Of course I have heard of some dead-beats who have gotten away with stuff like that for a while before being run off. I wouldn't want them anywhere around my company. At a certain point it's not about the degree. it's about being a liar and fraud and not who you say you are. I think that the poster below made that whole story up. If he didn't, pity on him!
@HWhroqn-1xch, While I'm not part of this discussion it is obvious that you are a deprived gay male who would enjoy some satisfying company. You are definitely over-confident, proud of yourself (some would say "full of oneself" and likened to looking at yourself in the mirror while stroking yourself. I really don't care if you are full of crap, which is often the case, with you self-centered gay males, as I am one too and I would love to hook up with you. We are not here to judge. It is clear that you are obsessed with the male genitalia and fantasize about oral sex between men, as you mentioned specifically. I would genuinely want to hook up with a sweet man such as yourself. I've never heard the term "common sense smarts" coming from a refined or educated person even with a respectable public school education but that is OK sweetie, you and I will make beautiful music together when you play my skin flute.
That's right. Chevron or any company requiring a degreed individual for a specific job, don't care whether you paid your own way through college or hocked your assto get the degree. But in any case, the degree is not free and must be paid for. I'd keep it to myself which path I took, but silently, be proud in the knowledge I got my degree and don't need to pay it back with interest.
The bottom line is that if a position requires a university degree in some specified field, then the company could care less if you truly earned it on your own or took out 100k in student loans and partied your assoff.
@1uzp, I respect you and can empathize with your ordeal at Chevron. I'm the previous poster who faked my way into Chevron and was more street smart that everyone around me. I'm not trying to dis anyone who went to college and received a highly technical eduction like you. I could not fake my way as a Geologist. But, I can understand what you went through at Chevron as a contractor. Sorry to hear you got shafted with false promises then for the crowning jewel, this downturn had to come through Dodge.
I'm the guy who paid my way through college. I graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree in Geology, which is a very rigorous and demanding major. Yes, I am old school and old - 62 this month. Not a single employer in my career, including Chevron, was impressed by that. No one cares. I was contract employee for almost 3 1/2 years before being let go. Chevron dept manager kept promising that I would be full time employee, but they kept stringing me along. I had seen this before at other companies, so I was not surprised. The full time employee I worked with on this project would ask me about all of the work that had been done by me and an overall project status at PMP time. I was not part of that and found out later that this other person was taking credit for all of my work for their own PMP. This person was tight with our common manager, so it was difficult for me to lodge any protest. BTW, contract people are trade like 2nd class people. With big layoff coming up my contract was not renewed and the other person is still employed. Oh well. Paying my own does not mean sh--. All I have is personal satisfaction.
While the two of you suck each other's dick over the college degree you have and don't flaunt, let me tell everyone that I went to college for two years when I realized it wasn't for me. I got into Chevron 29 years ago pretending to have a Business Administration degree with a concentration in Accounting. I held two positions over 7 years in Chevron's Finance and Accounting and moved into another department in Production for the remaining 22 years of my career, ending my last 5 years as a supervisor. I earned my way in this company through being be quick study and my hard work, dedication, persistence and common sense smarts. Nothing wrong with pursing a degree, but I've never been convinced it makes all the difference.
@-kpc Dude you are the man. And I bet you do not arrogantly flaunt your degree like the poster whom was pointed out earlier. There are more today than ever who want and think they are entitled to everything on a silver platter. You must be old-school. I applaud your achievements.
I paid my own way through college. Took 5 years including summer classes. That includes apt rent, utilities, food and tuition. Yes, most did have mommy and daddy pay all or most of their college. I do not feel superior for paying my own way. In fact, I have been on a few interviews where the interviewer mocked me for being stupid enough to pay my way with one guy actually joking that I must obviously come from a poor family.
Yes, You guys are 100% spot on - LOL!!! That's hilarious!! A college degree just made you a better person. You are better than everyone else because someone paid for you to go to school(most cases , 90+% of all grads) for you to take Calculus and eat pizza(like me) and learn things that you never used throughout your entire career. Too bad that you are an Arrogant obnoxious self-centered idiot trying for self validation on a Layoffs Website. You are pathetic if you flaunt your degree like that. I learned that from a wise college professor, BTW.
Also, do you think that people outside of Chevron give a flip about the Chevron Layoffs forum? Don't flatter yourselves. It's just us hapless losers. Everyone else has a life. Nothing to learn here.
I am sure that the large majority of those who were let go saw it coming and were mentally prepared for it and accepted what has happened, but we all have emotions about it. It would seem unnatural to be laid off and not have some anger about it. It takes a while for the shock and reality to set in. Some might be mildly pissed off and others might be raging angry. For me, I knew what was coming and made thè decision that I was not going to let it afffect my mental and physical health. There arè many people who are in much worse shape than I am.
I agree with the 10% grouping description. Based on the comments and feedback on this site, only 10% seem to come from legitimate and educated Chevron employees and retirees. At best, only 15% of the commentary is useful or insightful. Quite a shame.
@uer, my course breakdown of the demographics on this site is fairly accurate. Sounds like you might be in the 10% number, but I'm not about to segment the 10% demographic into smaller buckets. Suffice to say that most of us in the 10% grouping understand their fate and are fit to find a replacement job in a short time. Maybe you are in the 1-2% of that 10% group. Too bad. Life is not easy nor comes with a guarantee. I was forcefully retired from Chevron 3 years before my planned exit, but I'm okay with everything.
The 10% that you claim are OK with being let go are most definitely not OK with that. It is quite natural for laid off professionals to be angry and bitter, especially with the high level of petty high school politics that exists at the management level towards their staff. We have all witnessed it. Employees with 10-15 years or more and multiple awards for the recognition of their outstanding work are suddenly considered underperfoming and a liability?? At Chevron, the motto should be that it is better to be liked than good.
50% of the trolls on this site are NOT current or former Chevron employees. Another 40% are bitter losers who were deservingly laid off (most with no college degrees). The remaining 10% are professionals who were let go or EOI'ed from Chevron, are okay with things or understand the reason for their layoff and have promising prospects for their future. There in a nutshell are your demographics on this website. Me? - I'm in the 10% number.