Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

I remember 10 years ago when Intel relocated the wireless group from San Diego up to Hillsboro and then soon after laid a bunch of them off. That was simply cruel. They had no network in Oregon to find another job. They should have at least paid their way back to California where they could find employment.

I am not an H1B, but your comments remind me of an old story of a blue fox that said "Those grapes are sour". When you get kicked out of intel, the company becomes the worst in the world and it is at the verge of sinking, right losers?

We international H1B visa holders are slaves hired at Intel D1D Ramp to work as a Process Engineer at Ramp or PTD. This slavery will not end until we get Green Cards and move out to other better industry. We the slaves do what our managers at Ramp asks us to do, and no life - always on call 124x7 for 3 consecutive days. Sometime it's better to be laid off and try hard to land on a new job. As a process engineer at Intel PTD and Ramp, you'll own an Intel tool, but in return, INTEL OWNS YOU, YOUR PERSONAL LIFE IS NOTHING BETTER THAN SLAVES!!!!!

This is the guy who calls the foul-mouthed gr3 RCG poster a troll. Intel didn't kick me out. Now go ahead, lets hear more content-free, name-calling comments from you - be my guest.

Ah ha ha

More name calling from the RCG troll. You have some serious issues.

nope. already spoke to a lawyer.

There could be more than one, but aside from name calling you haven't provided any evidence. My evidence is circumstantial but it's this: often when there is a racist post it is followed up quickly with an agreement. This is a common tactic in an anonymous forum for one person trying to look like two. But what do I know I'm just an idiot according to you.

No, I think there's only 1 racist. He is better known as "troll", or more recently "the name-calling RCG". He likes to post a lot.

Conniving indians

I'll second that suggestion.

Go back to Delhi Raj. You need a bath

I know exactly what you mean. So far this guy who insults and then laughs at others has told us that: he works for Intel and is an RCG, is a software engineer, hates Portland, hates old people, hates people grade 9 and over, etc. And he can single-handedly turn Intel around if he's able to bring the average age of employees to what it was in the 80s. So you know you're dealing with someone who's not all there.

Enjoy the Holidays with no job assholes. Nobody deserves it more than Intel. LMFAO!!!

Try being 40 something and starting over

Sounds like me talking to my husband also a 15 year vet who also signed the waiver. Maybe they need another class action. How many billions are they worth!!!

yep, I bailed on intel after 27 sweet years, made enough to retire at 50.

took the VSP, 95k after taxes on top of the retirement and the shitton in the 401k and

stock. I think i'll take a year off and then figure out how to take advantage of all of these

really smart 30 somethings with the fat paychecks.

All the complaining is annoying but I don't think it is just the old farts, seems like everyone enjoys the recreation and drama. .Easier to complain all day than finding a quiet place to actually do some old school engineering. Some days It seems like the only work that gets done is complaining in one form or another. Often it comes in the guise of endless surveys requests for feedback.. It is funny to watch the bosses scramble to subtly beg not to get bad survey results. It seems like bosses try to figure out who is giving bad survey results and try to move those guys along so their dashboards look better.

But hey, lets not complain! The dividend is boosted, BK says growth is back and the stock is up. Something must be working cause life is good when the stock is up.

I recently took the separation pay and left Intel. I'm now working with a company that employees only 6000 employees yet has a 20 billion dollar a year revenue stream. What that means is this company is worldwide, a leader in their technology spaces, integrates their technology in various embedded spaces, and I make more in salary, bonuses, and stock. Intel filled my coffers with separation pay which because the best bonus of all. There is better paying jobs than Intel all over the place if you desire it.

Most Intel long timers are just too conservative to consider other options...but it does not stop them from complaining about the company, their pay, etc. Very annoying.

I can think of a couple good reasons to stay at Intel: 1) you're in someplace like Portland because of family and there are few large employers 2) your work specialty, which you absolutely love, is one that isn't general enough to be needed nearly anywhere else in the US (ie fab roles). There are probably other good reasons too. But if you see as I see - the impending disruption of Intel business (see the string below) why settle for "can still be happy" when the economy is so good right now? Life is short. Why settle for Intel unless you have to, and even then, do you have to??? Just a rhetorical question to those watching this layoff site... Why not choose to layoff Intel?

I knew 203233. There's a "Older Replies" link/button at both the top and bottom of the current page.

@203074: ARM cores are definitely working their way into Intel's core markets. The sad thing is, Intel could have prevented this (or at least mitigated its effects) if they didn't sell off their XScale family of ARM products back in 2006 (the Craig Barret days). But again, bad decisions at the executive staff level have come back to bite us.

Who knew about NEXT PAGE - LOL: https://www.thelayoff.com/intel/post/5761723727347712?page=2

I am new to this thread - here is my two cents - working for Intel (I've been here 4 years) kind of feels like working for US Steel. I know we are not going away, but at the same time I do not expect that significant growth will be happening here any time soon. For some people that's OK, if you have certain financial goals and need stability that's OK. Now, depending on the group you work for there may or may not be stability - that can be annoying if your position is unstable, you have no growth and your pay does not reflect the risks you may be taking on by working somewhere where you could be cut any time. I personally think that I need to find a job somewhere else.

My pessimism is not based on current profit, which is like you say very good, but rather the likelihood of disruption by ARM. I know that inside Intel this is supposedly viewed as a serious threat, but the company view of the threat is too narrow and I'd approximate that view as 1) small device ARM CPUs continue to take share from IA PCs 2) ARM CPUs penetrate the low end of servers. However my personal view is that the actual possibility for disruption is: Intel's entire business. This is not a "next year" type of thing, I'm talking about 10-15 yrs. Depending on when you count the start date it took Intel 5-10 years from launch of Intel server CPUs for Intel to overtake DEC/Sun in the late 90s in servers. Complicating potential ARM disruption is the fact that Intel is a 1 product company (1 product going into many markets). Over 47 years there have been many attempts to add businesses inside Intel, but none of them have succeeded... in 47 years. So, I'm pessimistic because I think ARM is going to win over the long term and Intel's ability to transition to say a foundry in 10 years is suspect given the poor record in developing new businesses.

I am an Intel engr but not a company man. 110k+ employees, $60B+ revenues but you think Intel is tanking? Not all ideas are winners, but what we do have is making a lot of $$.

Yes, Intel does have a lot of problems, is not collaborative (usually), and there is a lot of fighting. People want to work there for the same reason people might want to be in politics (which suffers the same work drawbacks not coincidentally) : money and power. That will change though. Unfortunately Intel is at the very beginning of it's disruption by ARM. The "rich retiree's" scintillating rebuttal earlier in this string to the "RCG name-caller" had it right: Intel looks like it's becoming DEC. And "RCG name-caller" thinks he can single handedly turn Intel around and grow new businesses (something Intel has never done in the past even when it was staffed nearly entirely by people his age). So, we have "RCG name-caller" who hates old people and has a wildly exaggerated sense of his abilities. Lots of drama inside Intel and also on this string. Personally I was suffering some drama withdrawal - glad to be back in this string after a 1 day power outage - and note I didn't use the word "troll" :)

Geez, by reading this Intel forum, I'd say Intel has a lot of problems. They do not foster teamwork or collaboration. Everybody fights each other. Why would anybody want to work for a company like that??

That old bull might be a millionaire, but his mindset is like that of a homeless beggar. The fat ass is looking down upon RCGs who are well educated from top universities after doing part-time job at the likes of McD and Pizza Hut. We have also taken huge loans to fund our education. If the fat asses continue occupying corporate cubes, how are we supposed to get a life. Should we wait till the bulky butts die out? Hello no.. We have great ideas and intel will provide us the platform by kicking out the old deadwood.

@202396 could easily be telling the truth about having a solid retirement. 34 years as an engineer dating back to days when stock options were generous as the company HC was about 10,000 and revenue under 1B/year. Look at Intel stock performance during 80's and 90's it was not uncommon for engineers with modest options and SPP shares to become multimillionaires. Even if they didn't diversify before the crash of 2000 they were likely still multimillionaires after the crash. Add the 401K, company retirement plans and a severance on top and I believe it quite likely he is doing fine. You just need to be smart and save for the day you are an old fart and you can be like 202396. I'm also not surprised after 34 years in the company that he has an interest in what happens next. its up to the kids now to carry on and see if they can do better than 2396 and his generation. Have my doubts but i hope you kids can do half as well as the old farts.

I don't need a resume any longer @202581. I've done well and the plan is to retire early.

@202396 - Great thoughts.. So, now, you have earned enough to survive till you die out naturally, right? As intel fired you, the company is going into shit, right? This itself shows how narrow-minded and good-for-nothing you are.. If you have already been kicked out and are no longer interested to know the state of affairs there, why are you peeping through their windows and finding out who all are employed there, what is in between their legs, etc? Come on buddy, you are an old and outdated piece of filth that does not deserve even a janitor position in the filthiest of toilets. And don't tell me you have earned millions in severance.. Everyone knows that old an useless bulls like you would have been on the higher side of pay, but it certainly wont get into millions or something that you could rely on till you get into your 90s. Your thoughts and views are a direct indication that you deserve being thrown out of intel like a piece of shit and you got what you deserve :).. Your attitude towards RCGs and the overall outlook will certainly land you deeper in filthier shit.

Wow. Great post @202396. I love your comment "These MS & PhDs NCGs may have been book smart but they could not engineer a solution for finding their way out of a paper bag."! Why? Because I've made MANY observations over the years that while these people are REALLY (book) smart... they don't have a LICK of common sense. Some actually struggle with very simple answers to simple questions. I came to the conclusion that booksmarts and common sense must be in different parts of the brain. And no, I'm not being sarcastic, I honestly believe that. I came to that conclusion years ago and find it mind-boggling, actually. I'll admit I'm not booksmart (HATED school) and I can fail a test BUT do better at the job than someone that passed the test. That is when I came to my conclusion that it must be 2 different parts of the brain because I don't have booksmarts, but I do have common sense and can find my way out of a paper bag.

@202157: He sounds pretty damn convincing to me!! You on the other hand sound like an a. You would be a real pain in the a to work with. You are way too full of yourself. Get a life and move on!!!

I find it so amusing to read here about all the VSPs and ISPs that Intel is implementing. Intel is shooting itself in the foot by getting rid of their experienced people and replacing them with people based only on their race and the plumbing between their legs. Those of you young people here who believe that it’s a good thing for Intel to push out their veteran employees thinking that they are past their prime in innovation and skills, shows how stupid and inexperienced you are in the real world. The veteran employees are the ones who know what to do, and what not to do, to get the job done. They know what things can derail a product in the very early design phases. RCGs (Recent college grads) do not.

Before I took VSP last April, I had worked for Intel for more than 34 years doing silicon design and package design. I found that every time we brought in some MS or PhD RCGs, we had to train them how to work, how to approach a problem, how to apply some analytical thinking, how to know when to stop analyzing scenarios, and how to apply an engineering solution. I found it pathetic that we had to teach them repetitively for months how to do their job. These MS & PhDs NCGs, regardless of their race or the plumbing between their legs, may have been book smart but they could not engineer a solution for finding their way out of a paper bag.

So all you RCGs who think I am some old fart whining and moaning that I got forced out and am now jobless, just know that I don’t HAVE to work anymore. I took retirement, and the cart full of money from the VSP. The money works for me now. I don’t have to get up every weekday morning to drive in rush hour traffic for 2 hours and do the same after work. I don’t have put up with BK’s bullshit policies and HR’s childish ethics yearly classes requirements. I don’t have to deal with a bunch of foreign H1 visas holders who cannot write an email in comprehensible English any better than my 7 year old 2nd grader, and who cannot drive or park a car properly, and who cannot even chew their food with their mouth shut at the lunch table. I don’t have to go to endless meetings to watch ppt presentations given by a bunch of PhD RCGs who cannot speak intelligibly. Each year I worked at Intel, these problems got worse.

Intel is on it’s way to becoming another DEC (Digital Equipment Corp). They were IBM’ big rival and they went out of business about the time your parents of you RCGs were trying to figure out which hole to use in Mum to create you. Intel will probably be gone within 10 years so start contributing to your 401(k)s you RCGs. (And learn how to chew with your mouth shut.)

This escalated quickly. I like Sandra in Accounting.

I wish this numbskull who continues to use "straw man" and "troll" would try using a thesaurus sometime. Repeating the same points and words over and over again does not make you more convincing. He is the poster boy for who should have been on ISP.

Can't reason it through with me? Need to set up a strawman and knock it down? I think it's because you realize that your position is not supported by the facts. In this case the facts are that Intel failed to develop new businesses when it was a young company full of young people. The ONLY difference is that they didn't have you. So I guess if we fire all the old people now and have all young staff with you in the mix this time it will be different. Complex problems are rarely the result of a single cause.

ok.. I realize my mistake now.. The old great folks at intel are the best brains in the world. They deserve exponential pay hikes year after year and should be kept employed till they die (may be in their late 90s). They must be respected by everyone and should never be questioned. Such guys will take care of pulling intel out of the misery it is in. And above all, intel should never participate in any kind of campus hiring nor should they hire any RCGs. It should completely ban all recruitment and wait for the old golds to come up with their innovative ideas that will take over the world. Happy now?