There’s been a lot of contradicting rumors. Any reliable news?
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No way that St. Louis would be the place. It's a pesthole city and those of us that work in PHX are not interested. I found this job when I was looking for one. I can find another with by extensive experience.
Still true today
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/new-crime-ranking-lists-st-louis-as-third-most-dangerous-us-city/
Layoffs in AERO? Possibly for the Corporate big-wigs after Elliot's report. AERO has too much backlog to be retrenching folks.
Any future location has to accommodate or have test facilities (the lab). There is a monumental investment in PHX that wouldn't easily be moved or efficiently replaced. Think square footage, electrical demand capacity, cooling systems that go along with the equipment. A new site would need permits and a lot of time/planning. Mexicali isn't a solution either for many reasons including technical competence and reliable power.
If there is a relocation, it is going to an existing manufacturer. Plan on Ohio or Massachusetts or Indiana or Connecticut or Florida. There ain't no billionaire that is going to do what Musk or Bezos did for the rocket industry.
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St. Louis crime stats only consider the City of St. Louis. The city is a very small part of the region and is totally separate from St. Louis county. St. Louis city population is less than 300,000 while the St. Louis area is almost 3,000,000. When the entire area is taken into consideration, it is one of the safest areas in the US. Honeywell would be foolish to locate into the city when there are many areas in St. Louis county and/or St. Charles county that are extremely safe. With the St. Louis work ethic, relocating into St. Louis county would be a great move.
As to the summer humidity comment, St. Louis does have humidity, but not near the levels in many other parts of the US. Often the high humidity is very limited in duration and there are times when it is extremely dry. We get almost as hot as the South and almost as cold as the North. Just not for as long.
Cincinnati Ohio is general electric's aerospace headquarters. They're already talk about breakup of Honeywell aerospace unit.
First they spin you off. Then they merge with general electric. Blows down. Aerospace Phoenix location. You don't need redundant jobs.
So it is possible when this guy stated that they're moving some people to Ohio. He might have meant Cincinnati Ohio. They're getting ready to have a super merger. These are the ones they want to keep.. oh ! You didn't make the list. Well you still a future shaper. Just maybe not at Honeywell anymore, next time you won't supersize it.
well its groceries Afterall. You have to have them.
three unrelated individuals working aero mergers,aquisitions, and other special projects have called me to inquire if there were openings in my group in the last 3 months.
hard to say what that means but that is more phone calls in the prior 3 years.
Do not rule out St Louis. Honeywell could relocate to St Louis in order to motivate employees to complain about issues other than working at Honeywell. Like how to survive living in St Louis with their high crime rate. St Louis is also very hot and humid in the summertime. Plus, they tax you on everything up there including groceries.
I doubt a major HQ move is likely barring acquisition and moving to the HQ staff only to the acquiring company HQ. Too much equipment move and re-certification costs. Phoenix is Aero's main home for the foreseeable future.
No reason to move to St. Louis or Olathe - what is there to drive a move those places? (Boeing's slowly tapering off fighter business in St. Louis? The KCNSC, a contract that can be pulled at any time?)
Why not Olathe? Because! The building was constructed to be the Allied Signal Aerospace HDQ back in 1998. It would make too much sense to relocate there. No one WANTS to live in Kansas. The roof will always leak, accept it! The union roofers who built it drove spikes (Nails) into it to make sure it it leaked forever because Allied Signal used non-union labor to build the site. Rumor is, that the building was an off the shelf design that Allied bought from John Deere, which is how they put it up in 18 months after the previous deal fell apart and caused the downfall of the Aero Management team at the time. It also explains the two garage doors on either side of the building. That's where the lawn tractors where suppose to have been driven out of the building.
Why not to Olathe, KS? They already have the under-utilized facility in a much more desirable location than anywhere in St. Louis. But better fix the roof without a taxpayer handout this time, please...
No updates but a rumor in another post is that Honeywell is looking to relocate the Aero division and is shopping around for tax breaks and incentives other states are offering Honeywell if they relocate. Looks like Saint Louis Missouri is at the top of the list for winning Honeywell move. Aero employees will probably have to pay their own moving expenses though.
With Saint Louis being the number one most dangerous city, or number two depending on the year, there may be a lot of affordable housing in Saint Louis you will be able to find once you move there.
Stay tuned for further developments.