Someone I know got fired because of time tracking.
Is there a chance this is true or is somebody trolling?
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They are tracking your badge swipes, IP address, and VPN usage. They are only using badge swipes and IP addresses, currently, to assess employee compliance with policies. Time in the building is monitored by IP address. But the time required depends on your line of business, some require as little as 4 hours, some require a full 8 hour day. They require 3 days in the office for workers who are Senior Officers and below, and 4 days a week for Directors and above. So, if you are a lead officer and your business requires 6 hours in the building per "in office" day, you will need a minimum of 18 hours of being signed on with an office IP address per week, in addition to your 3 weekly badge swipes. They are tracking both on a weekly basis.
Of course they’re collecting the data. The questions is, are they actually using it yet beyond looking up specific people who have given them a reason to? At the very least, it currently has 0 impact on whether or not you can get a day counted on the tracker. At least in my LOB and many others.
I can say with 100% certainty they track in office times. They monitor it through IP addresses and VPN logon times when working remotely.
"HR policy says three days in, as long as you stay four hours counts as a full day in. "
there is no such policy that specifies # hours in office to be a full day.
if you are exempt, then you must take PTO in 4 hr/half day increments.
There is no automated tracking of hours in office, and it's not being used to count whether you are in office or not. Badge swipe and/or network connection - Yes/no - that's it.
For our LOB at least, the 4 hour thing is just for PTO to count. To get a day on the tracker by actually going in, all you need is a badge swipe and/or to be connected to the office network long enough for it to register. Now I’ve heard of people getting fired for getting caught swiping their badge and then turning around and going home immediately without actually spending any time there. But at this moment in time any one in our LOB could probably hang for an hour or so 3 days per work and work the rest of the day at home and as long as your manager doesn’t care or nobody tattles on you, there won’t be any repercussions.
There is no consistency. HR policy says three days in, as long as you stay four hours counts as a full day in. My team was told three days in, eight hours. No half days. One person comes in two days with manager’s blessing. Others come in one or two days, print email, have coffee, use the restroom, log off and leave. WTH. Makes no sense, very uneven. Don’t expect fairness or equality.
These Ivory Tower types have no idea how stupid they look. They tighter they squeeze the worse the results are. They have no idea how to empower it inspire people to do their best work. No vision, no dream of a better WF. All they know how to do is torment their own people. It's obviously unsustainable and will fail. Now, don't get be wrong, I'm well aware that their mission is to get rid of the domestic workforce so they don't really care how productive we are, but they likely don't want the company to fail too hard before they transition it to being just I&P&HY. That could harm share prices, and we can't have that.
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Every LOB / department has a slightly different monitoring policy. Also some managers are more or less flexible than others. So it depends on which team you are on. Also as you are aware, WF is we-ponizing RTO to terminate you, so you have to be careful with this stuff.
I’ve heard nothing about hours spent in office, but know managers do address the average days in per month. Someone on another team was warned about not meeting it and at the same time they would ask to WFH and would, but appears to have been abused.
Director in CIB here … no, I am not looking at hours, just the 3 days in. Can’t speak for others but that’s how it is on my team (more than 50, less than 100). Same with my peers as far as I know.
What even is time tracking though? Just days in office? Hours? Both? No one will give a clear answer.
manager of managers here. this reporting is reviewed at OC level every month. Central monitoring of consistently low in-office is happening and individuals and their managers receive emails from BL and SP.
Managers are expected to treat this as any other performance dimension. you don't adhere to it, you first get dinged on perf review rating, then formally warned, then fired.
It's real folks. Managers are on the hook themselves so if you say "my manager doesn't care" you're either fooling yourself or they will very soon care - because they'll get dinged, warned and fired for not upholding the standard.
Yes it is true.
Oh it’s true. It’s a big goal.
It's from here: https://www.thelayoff.com/t/1ty8MO8k