I was just on a call with my boss (L4) and heard 90% of people with a Virtual or TW office designation will be off payroll by 1Q25.
First 2,000 will be receiving letters by September, and they don’t care if they lose knowledge, they want azzes in seats for the tax man.
Several years ago the surplus was if you lived more than 50 miles from a hub. There was no relocation offered, your boss had no input, it wasn’t based on performance, etc. just your zip code. And no, we won’t let you move.
To the previous poster, The majority of employees aren’t basing their relocation plans on prolife or abortion issues. Employees care more about their personal economy and having a safe community to work and live. The current Washington administration has a record of failure on both, inflation is super high and communities are unsafe especially, in border states like Texas because of open border policies.
Illegals including, te------t are flooding the States and deadly fentanyl dr-gs are ki-ling people at unbelievable numbers. Large numbers of women and children are being trafficked by the cartels. It’s politicians allowing it, all for votes and power. If people are in need of asylum then, there are legal ports of entry and a process to become a citizen, otherwise, it’s an invasion and breaking codified laws of a sovereign country. The real criminals are those who took an oath to uphold the constitution and laws of the land, but aren’t enforcing the laws and instead, turning a blind eye.
TW for 20 years, my last day is August 9th. I refused to move my family across the nation without a relocation package.
You couldn't pay me to move into an anti-abortionist, opportunity-less shithole like Dallas.
Imagine your wife dies from complications because the wheelchair f****t decided it's illegal for her to get a life saving operation.
what tax advantage is there for remote work? there is none
you are all in an oven and every day, the temp gets turned up a notch
“TW for 20 years, my last day is August 9th.”
Congratulations on your early retirement.
With every 10,000 you layoff, you save $2B as in billions. AT&T has way too many people. Next group should be all former employees of Directv , TimeWarner and many minor acquisitions who transitioned to T and are so irrelevant now. That includes Legg.
Out of all of the Finance jobs, audit is the only one I've heard is TW. Wouldn't audit be a job that would benefit from collaboration in an office more than any other?
It makes no sense.
TW is a teleworker. FTO is full time office. NIH is not in hub so get a packing.
“What’s TW?”
Time Warner, obviously.
What’s TW?
" FTO employees do not have equity with remote employees. It's not right and needs to be balanced out. "
This is an incredibly d-mb argument. The logical conclusion is "NO employees have equity with STANKEY. It's not right and needs to be balanced out."
TW for 20 years, my last day is August 9th. I refused to move my family across the nation without a relocation package.
“Too many orgs were playing fast and loose with the TW classification. This pi---d off the STANK. This is a known fact. You don’t have to believe it. OP provided a time line we can all just wait and see.”
Well…you pass down a stupid initiative and you get people doing stupid things to not lose talent.
Maybe Stankey is stupid?
Too many orgs were playing fast and loose with the TW classification.
This pi---d off the STANK. This is a known fact.
You don’t have to believe it. OP provided a time line we can all just wait and see.
" FTO employees do not have equity with remote employees. It's not right and needs to be balanced out. "
Why are you angry with people that are just in a different situation than you through no fault of their own?
You realize that many that are still classified TW are still in that classification because they simply do not have a suitable office close enough to them to possible comply with an RTO mandate AND that they're still here because they're probably a valuable, contributing member of a team (otherwise they surely would have been gone by now)?
You're angry with THEM because you DO have an office you have to report to, and like a petulant child you scream that "it's not fair". Grow the F up and worry about yourself.
"Stankey has defined a goal of reducing the TW employee base to 5-10% of the overall workforce by 1H 2025"
We are already there. If you include domestic management and union employees, we are at 5.9% TW designation. The split between management and union teleworkers is about even.
I imagine there is a significant percentage above that who just aren't showing up to the office that are not TW designation.
Let's say the truth here. FTO employees do not have equity with remote employees. It's not right and needs to be balanced out. Check the racial categories of remote employees, and you'll have a better understanding of why it's unjust to have so many.
“Professional individual contributors have been delivering high quality output remotely for years so maybe put your broad brush back in your pail and just wish the best for your fellow employees.”
Stankey and upper management doesn’t care, that’s the problem.
While there are some fallacies with this post, it is unfortunately more or less true given the assumption that a large number of people will decline the RTO offer.
Stankey has defined a goal of reducing the TW employee base to 5-10% of the overall workforce by 1H 2025. Impacted TW employees will be asked to report to a selected hub and if they decline they will be identified as surplus. Whether or not impacted employees are allowed to be backfilled is being decided on a case-by-case basis.
Each organization is different in terms of timing and level of impact. I know of some employees that were notified last week. Others, I'm told, won't be notified until next year. Plenty more will be notified before the end of this year.
There will still be employees with TW designations when all of this is done, the numbers will just be severely reduced.
What’s the magic behind 80%? What qualified research are folks who frequent this forum pulling from? Or is it just your gut feeling?
Professional individual contributors have been delivering high quality output remotely for years so maybe put your broad brush back in your pail and just wish the best for your fellow employees.
Source: Trust me bro
Please god let this be true.
Troll
“Because no one is indispensable, even those who have survived the past couple of years as virtual because their bosses are insecure about their own jobs and are afraid of losing their span of control.
Managers should be where 80% of their team members are or at least be in the same time zone.”
Except all those overseas employees, right? They’re exempt from all these rules for some reason.
Yeah I heard it too
Because no one is indispensable, even those who have survived the past couple of years as virtual because their bosses are insecure about their own jobs and are afraid of losing their span of control.
Managers should be where 80% of their team members are or at least be in the same time zone.
This post and the other recent posts on topic are being promulgated by the jealous majority in the FTO category.
They are not going to simply lay off all TW's at once. Nonsense.
And understand, I am by no means saying all TW's are "safe"---just as all FTO's are not "safe".
But to state that the approach will be a mass layoff of all current TW's, across all organizations, is fabricated, unrealistic, and flat out false.
Thanks for the heads up! Just called the dealership and cancelled the Lambo.
Fake news - it was never about taxes.
What org? This is a big company.
"Why would someone be laid off because they company advised them they could work from home?"
If it's an at will employee, this wouldn't be illegal. They don't have to offer anyone the opportunity to change their work situation to keep their job. I believe they have, in the past, surplussed people because of their location and did not give them an opportunity to move. Also, they don't have to be specific about why a person was chosen for surplus.
How to identify a fib.
Does the statement hold up to scrutiny?
Why would someone be laid off because they company advised them they could work from home?
Wouldn’t a TW be offered a FTO prior to any lay off?
This post does not pass the smell test. I deem this post, fake.