Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

What do managers actually do? They try to sc--w your career. They love doing that so they feel powerful.

They Boomerang, take boondoggles, post really dim witted things on LinkedIn, talk about their lemon tree, blame others, wear glasses on their heads, get paid for awards , and at the same time decimate an organization.

Fill a slot on an organizational chart silly!

To be a manager at Wells Fargo means to be compensated more that others for doing minimal to no work.

Most lack adequate knowledge of their business and don’t know the first thing about leadership.

To enable the disliked to fail, and the liked to succeed with minimum efforts.

Managers manage, but I have not seen that yet. They are more concerned with saving their as--s.

They are very busy checking RTO.

Wells Fargo doesn't have good managers nor good executives. The entire management structure here is totally corrupt.

I don't mind having some managers if they actually add value to the organization, but this particular bank has too many unnecessary managers who do nothing. Top heavy for nothing.

Charlie here. I appreciate your sacrifices.

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Do you know how I know you're not a manager? 😂

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This person is right on.

Not to defend them, but being a manager at WF has been a pretty lousy job for a few years. Blame span of control and the loss of people who've been around, replaced with new people. Staff, managers themselves, execs.

Managers are baby sitters today tracking RTO of all things. Too many direct reports to get involved in day to day work, or they can't help anyway because they either came from the outside or been given responsibilities for work that they've never done before because people got layered under them from other managers because of firings and span of control.

Everyone is being watched and under pressure. It's all about BSing, powerpoints and making themselves look good to managers above them, trying to save their own heads.

A good manager will take on risk when needed by making decisions when their employees need direction. They'll escalate when needed to get movement on important items. They'll advocate for their employees in meetings with people who are detached from reality. A good manager can ingest complicated information quickly and actually give direction based on that information. A good manager always has answers or resources when their employees hit a road block.

I noticed before getting laid off that managers had become more and more reluctant to make decisions and give direction. Partially due to the layoff culture, i think. Partially because some managers are so locked up in meetings all day that they no longer have their finger on the pulse of what their employees actually do on a daily basis. Some managers never understood what their employees were doing, so they don't have any direction to offer other than, "what do you think is best?"

I had some incredible managers at Wells and some garbage managers. Mixed bag.

Do not get rid of my manager. His actual role is a team leader on steroids, jumping as high as management or the situation calls for. He is doing a lot to cover lost productivity and the higher error rate over the past 3 years of layoffs.

He'll never be recognized for his efforts or given an opportunity to move up in the company, but as an extreme worker bee he takes a lot of pressure off me.

As others have pointed out- most of the work they do SHOULD not be necessary in a properly functioning organization, yet it is required due to the micromanagement culture of distrust from the overlords in HY.

Our manager used to be proactive and highly engaged in the dynamics of our work. Now they are so knee deep in all of the BS between RCSA, RTO tracking, calibrations, business unit reviews, and everything else that they are much less involved in our daily work and only engage with us in whatever the daily fire drill is, which is usually something stupid brought about by the execs.

I’m sure there were plenty of bad managers before, but now HY is making it impossible to be a good manager.

They cause problems and create unnecessary politics, stress, and drama.

Should Wells Fargo get rid of mid level managers or lower level managers? We have way too many managers who do not add any values.

Seriously, I don't see any good managers at Wells Fargo anymore. Most of them are garbage.

Managers coming out of the woodwork!

WF has too many layers of useless WF managers and they are wasting payroll.

They justify your existence. It is a culture of micromanagement that your manager is shielding you from. Your manager is having to fight to justify not cutting headcount.

I’ve never seen anything like it in all my 20+ years at WF.

They budget, plan, manage teams, and ensure the needs of business are met through delivery and all compliance and regulatory work is done. Under Agile Transformation initiative agenda, they have been able to delegate some of that work to PO/SM/KL roles. In that sense, their work has become more strategic in nature. With proper span of control being enforced, it is still a value-added role. However, without solid organizational design, and in absence of strong work ethic, some people in this role may develop a predilection for general operational ambivalence and obstinate bureaucracy. Managers are usually not leaders.

All the good managers are gone, only the bad ones are here.

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good managers spend all day long keeping resources coming to their teams and fending off the bullsh-t

Managers don't do actual work, they delegate work to staff employees. Managers' responsibility is to manage (manipulate) people.

They have to put up with people like you’s cr-p