Starting a thread for town Hall discussion. Anyone have ideas for bingo squares?
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“ I’m interested if and when the random pulse survey results will be shared.” they won’t be shared. Execs know morale is bad and they don’t care. Profits are up and they will keep pushing for that even if it lays waste to employees. They also think they can fool some of us by pretending that everything is good and hiding behind statements like “we talked to employees and this is what they wanted.” Sc-mbaggery at its finest.
Today’s Town Hall was once again nothing but lip service. So disappointed how no one sees the negative impact on employees with these recent changes; no longer covering internet should’ve been the first clue, then FOW, sale of MA, etc. Morale is absolutely terrible. Two years ago I bragged about working here and highly recommend this company to everyone I knew. I’m interested if and when the random pulse survey results will be shared.
As in person collaboration has been declared as so important, and with the numbers of geographically diverse teams, would upper management be OK with having team face-to-face collaboration events a few times a year to get the teams together? Or would the travel expenses make this 'too expensive'? Think we know the answer...
"Severance policy is 2 weeks pay for every year worked..max at 52 weeks"
Band is also a factor, so there's a minimum number of weeks of severance given for each band.
Severance policy is 2 weeks pay for every year worked..max at 52 weeks
"LOL I’m not HR but I can totally see why it came across that way. I was really excited about it and now I see I read it wrong. Sorry everyone!!!"
If we could all get severance that easily I don't know how many employees at Cigna would be left 😂
LOL I’m not HR but I can totally see why it came across that way. I was really excited about it and now I see I read it wrong. Sorry everyone!!!
The only genuine good thing of the town hall was the story about Aaron who volunteers.
Is there like, a plant or two in here trying to get people to fill out that severance form? HR is that you???
The FOW Policy says the severance claim period starts the day you’re notified to be in office and ends the date you’re expected to begin working in office.
Wouldn’t this place most of us outside of the window to submit this form?
You do get an extra 40 days if you’ve been compliant but this still is out of scope if you were part of Phase 1. And before PTO did not factor into your time in office so if you took a week off, you weren’t compliant that week.
"No, they didn’t specify mileage because it’s more situation specific. Ex: driving 20 miles into Philly or nyc office takes way more time than driving 50 into Bloomfield office"
Scroll down to the definitions for the policy on the same page, it literally says:
""Reasonable commuting distance" means 50 miles..."
I also have it on good word that they have people planted in the audience to ask softball questions.
Look at the third item under failure to comply, it says the office you're aligned to is more than a reasonable commuting distance from their home address.
No, they didn’t specify mileage because it’s more situation specific. Ex: driving 20 miles into Philly or nyc office takes way more time than driving 50 into Bloomfield office
"For everyone upset, I want to keep emphasizing that those of us designated in person office aligned can submit a form that we’re leaving bc of FOW policy and leave WITH SEVERANCE!!! Don’t complain, don’t get mad, take advantage of this and leave if you want to!"
Look at the third item under failure to comply, it says the office you're aligned to is more than a reasonable commuting distance from their home address. That means good standing AND more than 50 miles from the office. You can't just get severance.
Wish someone asked how we can speak out against toxic Directors and above because reporting to HR, Skip level & Ethics Committee did nothing. Despite many complaints from multiple people. All ended up as "unsubstantiated".... and many that filed complaints got the worst comp and ignored when tried to escalate it
FOW initiative, policies, employer of choice.
Contradiction: It’s up-to management to make decisions for their teams.
Well well well, it’s one or the other.
Well, they sure did a great job dancing around that question.
CLAPPING SO HARD FOR THIS QUESTION RIGHT NOW
“Severance is not guaranteed for non-compliance”
You’re right, so don’t stop complying and then try to leave. Fill out the form and leave now!!!! Read the policy everyone
“wtf does HCSC stand for?!?”
Where’ve you been? It’s one of the biggest health insurers in the US and bought our Medicare biz
Loved the CEO having to feel the same awkwardness I feel when communicating is GSP every day on camera in front of thousands
Severance is not guaranteed for non-compliance
wtf does HCSC stand for?!?
That 1st phone in question is exactly how I feel when communicating with staff in Hyderabad. I barely understand them.
For everyone upset, I want to keep emphasizing that those of us designated in person office aligned can submit a form that we’re leaving bc of FOW policy and leave WITH SEVERANCE!!! Don’t complain, don’t get mad, take advantage of this and leave if you want to!
As a Band 5, I still have not received any word on how they are monitoring FOW or what consequences will be (go on PiP first, then termed, etc). My team is all over the place and these new rules will have to be enforced by HR (if at all) because I surely will not be doing anything about them.
Did anyone read through the whole entire future of work policy? Anyone get fuming mad when they read the part about moving? You must obtain manager approval before moving as it would impact their ability to perform their work and alignment with the policy. Our freedom is being taken away a little at a time. Next will be full time in office.
My team is LITERALLY all over the country. How are we going to in-person collaborate? Fu-k these sc-mbags.
Cigna Town Hall takeaways:
New buzz word is “employee of choice”
You will all be onsite 3 days a week and we will tell you when those days will be
We don’t care about your work life balance so savor your PTO
As an employee of choice it couldn’t be more apparent that they want people to quit so they do not have to job eliminate and pay out severances.
At what point did we stop being valued or maybe we never were and the wool had been pulled over my eyes this entire time.
“Don't you need to be 50+ miles away from an office?”
No…that’s in the WAH section. I’m talking about the failure to comply and separation section. You need to be in good standing, designated in person office aligned, and meet some listed requirements about hiring status. And then you can get severance if you leave bc of the policy.
So guys make sure you don’t just stop complying, that will make you not fit with the “good standing” requirement. Leave now to get your severance
"Guys - read the FOW Policy on Iris (failure to comply and separation part). If you say you will not comply with this policy, you can get severance and leave. I’d recommend everyone take advantage of that while it’s available!"
Don't you need to be 50+ miles away from an office?
Guys - read the FOW Policy on Iris (failure to comply and separation part). If you say you will not comply with this policy, you can get severance and leave. I’d recommend everyone take advantage of that while it’s available!
Here we go with softball questions... lets see if someone has the courage to ask a hardball question about low employee moral is due to all these many silent layoffs and the hatred FOW.
"You make such a difference internally and to the communities you serve, so I hope this inspires all of you."
Yeah, it inspires me to find another employer who isn't lying through their teeth.
“FOW policy has language regarding separation for those who "Fail to comply" ....the line has been drawn into the sand.”
I want to point out for those of you saying you want to be laid off because of this, if you fail to comply, it will be a firing for cause. Not layoff. Just don’t want people to end up in a bad situation bc they expected severance and got fired insyead
They think that we're all stupid enough to think they care while ripping the rug out from under us with the future of work garbage. My team is all around the country and none of us work in the same office, and I don't "collaborate" with anyone at my site. It's pointless, treat us like adults who can decide where we work! Leadership is obviously not as keen on "innovation" as they keep claiming.
If we are an employer of choice, why was my merit and bonus at the lowest it's ever been despite exceeding all my goals? This discussion panel during the townhall is so tone deaf and cringe.
Whose “feedback” were they referring to? There’s not one employee I’ve chatted with that wants to be in the office that isn’t already going in.
FOW policy has language regarding separation for those who "Fail to comply" ....the line has been drawn into the sand.
These Town Hall meeting do such a great job at ruining my day.
How they can say they're a choice employer or that they're working to support employer work/life balance after laying off SEVERAL THOUSANDS of employees and then backtracking to say they're making staff come in three days a week (to help with work/life balance, right?), blows my mind.